Well worth the time spent reading it.

If someone is black, white, or green, spouting this sort of bile only reveals their internal prejudice. Wright is a bigot. Case closed.

Trouble is, it doesn’t tell us how to move on from the Bush/Clinton era of gotcha cherrypicking, base busing, and dumbing down. If Obama can’t figure out how to translate better and more honest arguments into wins, he’ll get ground down by the politics of the last two decades.

And he’s a liberal in the same way John McCain is a centrist.

In 2004, at the height of the firestorm that was set off by Mayor Gavin Newsom authorizing same sex marriages in San Francisco, previous Mayor Willie Brown held a fundraiser for U.S. Senate candidate Barack Obama. The candidate had a request to Mayor Brown:

“And he said to me, he would really appreciate it if he didn’t get his photo taken with my mayor. He said he would really not like to have his picture taken with Gavin.”

Given this, his latest speech is, to me, nothing more than a political speech motivated by cynical political ambitions. He is someone who will do what he thinks he needs to win. In particular, you can bet your ass he will not touch gays or gay issues with a ten foot pole during this election.

Second, you have no right to proclaim “Barck Obama would like to see the [continuation] of post-1965 immigration policy because over time this policy will reduce White Americans to a racial minority.” That is a motivational claim, not a fact. Anything that lasted since 1965 clearly has a lot of fingerprints all over it, mostly from corporate America that wants to suppress wages. I would like to see strong support of border security, but who else would stand up to corporate America and do that right? Racial issues are a distance nth factor leading to support, perhaps among specific direct interest groups. Obama wouldn’t be any worse than the other contenders, and is likely to mellow the affirmative action issue not make it more strident. Your final sentence is manifestly outrageous, especially on a blog dedicated to scientific style thinking in every area.

Whites won. Too bad. I suffer no White guilt over it. It doesn’y follow from this that Americans Indians should be treated badly.

Barck Obama would like to see the contiuation of post-1965 immigration policy because over time this policy will reduce White Americans to a racial minority. So clearly Barck Obama’s intetnios towards White Americans are quite nasty.

If he were elected president, Barck Obama would increase the scale of the currently intractable social,economic and environmental problems. Do you really think afirmmative action for hispanics ,jamaicans,nigerians,ghanians and other post-1965 demographic groups is a long term viable policy option? Complete nonsense.

Barck Obama in his orientation is 100 percent racial. Manifestly obvious.

“My estimation of him went up, because I’m sick and tired of these weasels who avoid anything that their staff says might cause them to be a shade less popular. You want a real man with guts in the White House? Well, Obama fits the bill.”

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/21/16207/3114/363/481705

“One of the most controversial statements in this sermon was when he mentioned “chickens coming home to roost.”

He was actually quoting Edward Peck, former U.S. Ambassador to Iraq and deputy director of President Reagan’s terrorism task force, who was speaking on FOX News. That’s what he told the congregation”.

“I heard Ambassador Peck on an interview yesterday did anybody else see or hear him? He was on FOX News, this is a white man, and he was upsetting the FOX News commentators to no end, he pointed out, a white man, an ambassador, he pointed out that what Malcolm X said when he was silenced by Elijah Mohammad was in fact true, he said Americas chickens, are coming home to roost.”

“We took this country by terror away from the Sioux, the Apache, Arikara, the Comanche, the Arapaho, the Navajo. Terrorism.

“We took Africans away from their country to build our way of ease and kept them enslaved and living in fear. Terrorism.

“We bombed Grenada and killed innocent civilians, babies, non-military personnel.

“We bombed the black civilian community of Panama with stealth bombers and killed unarmed teenage and toddlers, pregnant mothers and hard working fathers.

“We bombed Qaddafi’s home, and killed his child. Blessed are they who bash your children’s head against the rock.

“We bombed Iraq. We killed unarmed civilians trying to make a living. We bombed a plant in Sudan to pay back for the attack on our embassy, killed hundreds of hard working people, mothers and fathers who left home to go that day not knowing that they’d never get back home.

“We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye.

“Kids playing in the playground. Mothers picking up children after school. Civilians, not soldiers, people just trying to make it day by day.

“We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff that we have done overseas is now brought right back into our own front yards. America’s chickens are coming home to roost.

“Violence begets violence. Hatred begets hatred. And terrorism begets terrorism. A white ambassador said that y’all, not a black militant. Not a reverend who preaches about racism. An ambassador whose eyes are wide open and who is trying to get us to wake up and move away from this dangerous precipice upon which we are now poised. The ambassador said the people we have wounded don’t have the military capability we have. But they do have individuals who are willing to die and take thousands with them. And we need to come to grips with that.”

Later he said the following:

“Maybe we need to declare war on AIDS. In five minutes the Congress found $40 billion to rebuild New York and the families that died in sudden death, do you think we can find the money to make medicine available for people who are dying a slow death? Maybe we need to declare war on the nation’s healthcare system that leaves the nation’s poor with no health coverage? Maybe we need to declare war on the mishandled educational system and provide quality education for everybody, every citizen, based on their ability to learn, not their ability to pay. This is a time for social transformation.”

I don’t think there’s much he or Barack should be apologizing for about that particular speech, although I didn’t like the GD America stuff the other time.

Thanks you so much for your detailed and kind replies. They really helped. I’m printing them out. I’ll post more later —

And given the factor-of-ten underrepresentation of people of color in academic astronomy, discussions of race are especially germane.

Are Chinese people not people of color in your mind? I could have sworn they make up an enormous percentage of UC Berkeley admissions (and several times their actual percentage in the CA population), and are routinely passed over in the Ivies because they get perfect scores …

Now, I wonder what the difference is, hmmm. Maybe whitey somehow discriminates in favor of the yellow man?

Perhaps we really should discuss the elephant in the room.

I think you are too hard on Obama, but he is compromised to some substantial degree like any conventional politician. Only Nader could be trusted to really stand up to corporations, but he’d split the vote and I don’t want to see that. Maybe Obama if elected, can appoint Nader to head the FTC.

Every long term festering social,economic and environmnetal problem in America will increase in scale-and therefore remain unsolvable-if Baracl Obama is elected president of the United States.

Barack Obama’s politics are racial to the core…. right to the wick of his being.

The fact that Barack Obama has said that he won’t meet with Hasmas-the legitmate representative of the Palestinian people-is a very good indicator of what ot expect from an OBama presidency: a con tiuation of a pro-Isarael rejectionism policy which is the number one barrier to peace in the middle east. If Hamas is a terrorist organization, Israel is a much greater terrorist organization. Just count the number of dead bodies. For every person killed by Hamas, Israel kills three hundred(acording to Ralph Nader).

Barack Obama is more of the same. Just another sleazy megalamanic lusting for power,fame and fortune. These are the types that have appeal to liberals with a guilty racial concience. Unfortunately, it is the rest of us who will have to pay the price for the financially well- to -do liberal with a guilty racial concious. For more on this check out Steve Sailers blog and Vdare.com

Let’s take affirmative action. Post-1965 immigrants from the Carribean, Africa, Central and South America and Asia all quaily for affrimative action. In fact,they all have been recipients of Affirnmative Action. Why should White Americans be in favor of this?

Let’s take Legal post-1965 immigration policy. Post 1965 legal immigration is radically changing the racial composition of Ameica. Why should White Americans be in favor of this?

When Barack Obama campaigned in California for the Hispanic vote, he explictly appealed to Hispanic racial interests. Obama promised Hispanics in California more affrimative action and an open border hispanic immigration policy. Both of therse policies will inflame and increase the scale of racial conflict in America. Only a fool or a madman would deny this.

Obama is bad for the enviroment. Legal and illegal post -1965 immigration policy -when you take into account the number of offspring hispanics,asians, muslims,carribeans and africans are having in America-accounts for 100 percent of current US population growth. I suppose liberal supporters of Barack Obama expect White Americans to stop breeding to compensate.

Barack Obama is a friend of the Corporation. This has been documented in a Atlantic monthly essat artilce by Ken Silverstien on Barack Obama.

Corporations use both Legal and illegal immigration as a way of transferring power away from American Workers to the Corporation.