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		<title>By: WMAP 5-YEARS</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/03/05/wmap-5-year-results-released/#comment-321861</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Lopsided Universe &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/03/05/wmap-5-year-results-released/#comment-318168</link>
		<dc:creator>The Lopsided Universe &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] collaborators: it&#8217;s lopsided. We all (all my friends, anyway) have seen the pretty pictures from the WMAP satellite, showing the 1-part-in-100,000 fluctuations in the temperature of the CMB from place to place in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: John Merryman</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/03/05/wmap-5-year-results-released/#comment-312586</link>
		<dc:creator>John Merryman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lawrence,

If time is a measurement, than what physically exists is perfectly conserved, as it passes from one macro-state to the next. It is only these macro states that are created and consumed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lawrence,</p>
<p>If time is a measurement, than what physically exists is perfectly conserved, as it passes from one macro-state to the next. It is only these macro states that are created and consumed.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence B. Crowell</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/03/05/wmap-5-year-results-released/#comment-312578</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence B. Crowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quantum mechanics is the unitary evolution of a wave function, which completely preserves quantum information (Q-bits).  Quantum fluctuations are really a manifestation of measurement, or some decherent process, when a quantum system couples to some unspecified set of states.  These states can be in a measurement apparatus.  Yet pure quantum mechanics is perfectly time reversal invariant and preserves all the information in the initial conditions of a quantum system.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quantum mechanics is the unitary evolution of a wave function, which completely preserves quantum information (Q-bits).  Quantum fluctuations are really a manifestation of measurement, or some decherent process, when a quantum system couples to some unspecified set of states.  These states can be in a measurement apparatus.  Yet pure quantum mechanics is perfectly time reversal invariant and preserves all the information in the initial conditions of a quantum system.</p>
<p>Lawrence B. Crowell</p>
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		<title>By: John Merryman</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/03/05/wmap-5-year-results-released/#comment-312568</link>
		<dc:creator>John Merryman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lawrence,

Doesn't the Uncertainty Principle essentially show that some information is destroyed in the very process of measuring other information?

 Since I view time as a consequence of motion, rather than the dimensional basis for it, I think monumental amounts of information are destroyed and replaced every moment. I would posit the current credit meltdown, as well as the rest of history, as proof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lawrence,</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t the Uncertainty Principle essentially show that some information is destroyed in the very process of measuring other information?</p>
<p> Since I view time as a consequence of motion, rather than the dimensional basis for it, I think monumental amounts of information are destroyed and replaced every moment. I would posit the current credit meltdown, as well as the rest of history, as proof.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence B. Crowell</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/03/05/wmap-5-year-results-released/#comment-312566</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence B. Crowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If inflation expanded a small spherical cosmology into a flat spacetime, this spacetime may well be of infinite extent.  A finite cosmology, or a three dimensional ball with a two dimensional boundary, requires that boundary conditions exist there.  This is somewhat problematic.  However, even for an infinite dimensional R^3 space the topology change likely means that some topological information is either lost (destroyed) or is transformed into some other form.  What that is is difficult to say, maybe a 't Hooft-Polyakov monopole.  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If inflation expanded a small spherical cosmology into a flat spacetime, this spacetime may well be of infinite extent.  A finite cosmology, or a three dimensional ball with a two dimensional boundary, requires that boundary conditions exist there.  This is somewhat problematic.  However, even for an infinite dimensional R^3 space the topology change likely means that some topological information is either lost (destroyed) or is transformed into some other form.  What that is is difficult to say, maybe a &#8216;t Hooft-Polyakov monopole.  </p>
<p>Lawrence B. Crowell</p>
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		<title>By: John Merryman</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/03/05/wmap-5-year-results-released/#comment-312525</link>
		<dc:creator>John Merryman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 02:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spaceman,

 According to Inflation theory, it is many, many times the size of the visible universe. To the point that, from our perspective, it is just about spatially infinite. Curvature seems mostly a function of the time dimension, in that the analysis of redshift and CMBR says it is only13.73 billion years old.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_inflation

"Cosmic inflation has the important effect of smoothing out inhomogeneities, anisotropies and the curvature of space."

 Basically it explains how the factors which suggest an infinite universe can exist in a finite model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spaceman,</p>
<p> According to Inflation theory, it is many, many times the size of the visible universe. To the point that, from our perspective, it is just about spatially infinite. Curvature seems mostly a function of the time dimension, in that the analysis of redshift and CMBR says it is only13.73 billion years old.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_inflation" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_inflation</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Cosmic inflation has the important effect of smoothing out inhomogeneities, anisotropies and the curvature of space.&#8221;</p>
<p> Basically it explains how the factors which suggest an infinite universe can exist in a finite model.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence B. Crowell</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/03/05/wmap-5-year-results-released/#comment-312516</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence B. Crowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason Dick on Mar 10th, 2008 at 1:19 pm 
Secret American Planck Basher,

Well, the free parameter in question is a pretty important one, in my view: the energy scale of inflation. Pinning down the energy scale of inflation is a pretty big step in making any significant statements about what inflation actually is. 

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In cosmology the time dependency of the metric coefficients means there is no Killing vector which as an isometry defines an energy conservation.  As strange as it might sound, conservation of energy in cosmology is not definable.  The only conservation law we really have is the continuity equation

[tex]
\nabla_aT^{ab}~=~0
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plus conservation based what ever spatial killing vectors might exist.

Lawrence B. Crowell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason Dick on Mar 10th, 2008 at 1:19 pm<br />
Secret American Planck Basher,</p>
<p>Well, the free parameter in question is a pretty important one, in my view: the energy scale of inflation. Pinning down the energy scale of inflation is a pretty big step in making any significant statements about what inflation actually is. </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>In cosmology the time dependency of the metric coefficients means there is no Killing vector which as an isometry defines an energy conservation.  As strange as it might sound, conservation of energy in cosmology is not definable.  The only conservation law we really have is the continuity equation</p>
<p><img src='/latexrender/pictures/d240c701512f839f7b2e4959ae10b7fa.gif' title='&#13;&#10;\nabla_aT^{ab}~=~0&#13;&#10;' alt='&#13;&#10;\nabla_aT^{ab}~=~0&#13;&#10;' align=absmiddle/></p>
<p>plus conservation based what ever spatial killing vectors might exist.</p>
<p>Lawrence B. Crowell</p>
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		<title>By: Secret American Planck Basher</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/03/05/wmap-5-year-results-released/#comment-312511</link>
		<dc:creator>Secret American Planck Basher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Energy scale of inflation. Is it really "important"? Yes, in the context of inflation models, but I don't see it as having much of an impact beyond the "conclusions" section of Yet Another Inflation Paper. It will kill 60% (? -- high side) of models on a good day, but it won't open up vistas. Once upon a time there was the consistency relation, a lot harder to check, but today even that's old hat.

Measurements to smaller scales. Once past 10 arcminutes or so, you're in the damping tail and will learn nothing more of the early universe. Getting l of 700 won't really help much with l of 3000 except you might know the input cosmological parameters a bit better.

As for the other benefits you mention. Yes, of course there will be a lot of data. I just don't see it as really changing things, pushing the field, in new directions. And I say that as a guy with Kolb and Tuner on his desk and a couple of early universe ideas out in the literature and in my head. I wish there was a measurement from Planck that I'd be truly excited about, but right now it's a grab bag of things that other places will cover as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Energy scale of inflation. Is it really &#8220;important&#8221;? Yes, in the context of inflation models, but I don&#8217;t see it as having much of an impact beyond the &#8220;conclusions&#8221; section of Yet Another Inflation Paper. It will kill 60% (? &#8212; high side) of models on a good day, but it won&#8217;t open up vistas. Once upon a time there was the consistency relation, a lot harder to check, but today even that&#8217;s old hat.</p>
<p>Measurements to smaller scales. Once past 10 arcminutes or so, you&#8217;re in the damping tail and will learn nothing more of the early universe. Getting l of 700 won&#8217;t really help much with l of 3000 except you might know the input cosmological parameters a bit better.</p>
<p>As for the other benefits you mention. Yes, of course there will be a lot of data. I just don&#8217;t see it as really changing things, pushing the field, in new directions. And I say that as a guy with Kolb and Tuner on his desk and a couple of early universe ideas out in the literature and in my head. I wish there was a measurement from Planck that I&#8217;d be truly excited about, but right now it&#8217;s a grab bag of things that other places will cover as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel de França MTd2</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/03/05/wmap-5-year-results-released/#comment-312507</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel de França MTd2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been trying to access this site for a few days. It seems to work for everybody in other countries, except for me, no matter what ISP I used. Now, I used a foreign proxy, and finally accessed it. Could it be that NASA is blocked Brazil to access this site?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to access this site for a few days. It seems to work for everybody in other countries, except for me, no matter what ISP I used. Now, I used a foreign proxy, and finally accessed it. Could it be that NASA is blocked Brazil to access this site?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Dick</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/03/05/wmap-5-year-results-released/#comment-312494</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Dick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Secret American Planck Basher,

Well, the free parameter in question is a pretty important one, in my view: the energy scale of inflation.  Pinning down the energy scale of inflation is a pretty big step in making any significant statements about what inflation actually is.  There are also measurements of the CMB out to smaller scales, which will provide further, much more significant constraints on various other inflationary parameters.  It's also a big help to make use of the same instrument for both the large angular scales and the small angular scales, as there are always uncertainties that crop up when combining different experiments.  Then there's the fact that additional sky coverage improves measurements at all angular scales, and so Planck will be able to do better out to somewhere around 10-20 arcminutes or so than any ground-based instrument can possibly do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Secret American Planck Basher,</p>
<p>Well, the free parameter in question is a pretty important one, in my view: the energy scale of inflation.  Pinning down the energy scale of inflation is a pretty big step in making any significant statements about what inflation actually is.  There are also measurements of the CMB out to smaller scales, which will provide further, much more significant constraints on various other inflationary parameters.  It&#8217;s also a big help to make use of the same instrument for both the large angular scales and the small angular scales, as there are always uncertainties that crop up when combining different experiments.  Then there&#8217;s the fact that additional sky coverage improves measurements at all angular scales, and so Planck will be able to do better out to somewhere around 10-20 arcminutes or so than any ground-based instrument can possibly do.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence B. Crowell</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/03/05/wmap-5-year-results-released/#comment-312483</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence B. Crowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a number of reasons to suspect that the spatial manifold of the universe is simply connected.  There are some energy conditions by Penrose and Hawking which point to why space, at least classically, should be simply connected.  There is also the work by Gregory Perleman on the Poincare conjecture.  This involves Hamilton's Ricci flow equations, which describe how a space will evolve so it has some minimal energy configuration.  Think of a balloon you have twisted up (though not tied up) and you then let it go.  The balloon snaps back to its round shape.  Perleman's work with the Ricci flow equations indicate that the minimal configuration of a closed three dimensional space is a sphere.  So I suspect that the universe does not have worm holes or dodecahedral portholes and the like.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a number of reasons to suspect that the spatial manifold of the universe is simply connected.  There are some energy conditions by Penrose and Hawking which point to why space, at least classically, should be simply connected.  There is also the work by Gregory Perleman on the Poincare conjecture.  This involves Hamilton&#8217;s Ricci flow equations, which describe how a space will evolve so it has some minimal energy configuration.  Think of a balloon you have twisted up (though not tied up) and you then let it go.  The balloon snaps back to its round shape.  Perleman&#8217;s work with the Ricci flow equations indicate that the minimal configuration of a closed three dimensional space is a sphere.  So I suspect that the universe does not have worm holes or dodecahedral portholes and the like.</p>
<p>Lawrence B. Crowell</p>
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		<title>By: spaceman</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/03/05/wmap-5-year-results-released/#comment-312466</link>
		<dc:creator>spaceman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you read about the latest measurements of spatial curvature? It is now firmly established that the radius of our Universe is greater than the size of our observable universe a fact which will make it even harder for advocates of non-trivial topology to hang out onto their "small universe" hypothesis....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you read about the latest measurements of spatial curvature? It is now firmly established that the radius of our Universe is greater than the size of our observable universe a fact which will make it even harder for advocates of non-trivial topology to hang out onto their &#8220;small universe&#8221; hypothesis&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence B. Crowell</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/03/05/wmap-5-year-results-released/#comment-312434</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence B. Crowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 15:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Retransmission, I forgot this does not like the carrot symbols
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I am trying to figure out what you are meaning here.  The result seems to point to some analogy with the T less than T_c magnetization of a metal in domains.  Though some care must be given in that our observations are not across the whole of space, but are along projective rays on a past light cone.  This birefringence result is an anisotropy and not an inhomogeneity result.  But it does suggest that a CP violating phase in the PMNS (CKM) matrix might assume local values, which is suggestive of physics similar to more down to Earth physics of symmetry breaking and Landau-Ginsburg type of potentials.  The WZW action in supersymmetry is similar to this, and this might be a manifestation or "fossil" signature of such physics in the early universe.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Retransmission, I forgot this does not like the carrot symbols<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>I am trying to figure out what you are meaning here.  The result seems to point to some analogy with the T less than T_c magnetization of a metal in domains.  Though some care must be given in that our observations are not across the whole of space, but are along projective rays on a past light cone.  This birefringence result is an anisotropy and not an inhomogeneity result.  But it does suggest that a CP violating phase in the PMNS (CKM) matrix might assume local values, which is suggestive of physics similar to more down to Earth physics of symmetry breaking and Landau-Ginsburg type of potentials.  The WZW action in supersymmetry is similar to this, and this might be a manifestation or &#8220;fossil&#8221; signature of such physics in the early universe.</p>
<p>Lawrence B. Crowell</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence B. Crowell</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/03/05/wmap-5-year-results-released/#comment-312433</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence B. Crowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 14:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I missed this one:

Adam on Mar 5th, 2008 at 10:45 pm 
@ Mr. Crowell:

Have you considered that the stochastic nature of the parametrically-driven electron birefrigence would circumvent the dynamic Curie threshold and instead oscillate unstably until (pi/d^2) - 1 converges on infinity, thus causing the universe to implode?

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I am trying to figure out what you are meaning here.  The result seems to point to some analogy with the T </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I missed this one:</p>
<p>Adam on Mar 5th, 2008 at 10:45 pm<br />
@ Mr. Crowell:</p>
<p>Have you considered that the stochastic nature of the parametrically-driven electron birefrigence would circumvent the dynamic Curie threshold and instead oscillate unstably until (pi/d^2) - 1 converges on infinity, thus causing the universe to implode?</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>I am trying to figure out what you are meaning here.  The result seems to point to some analogy with the T</p>
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		<title>By: MAP 5-Year Results Released &#171; The Bee Buzz</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/03/05/wmap-5-year-results-released/#comment-312430</link>
		<dc:creator>MAP 5-Year Results Released &#171; The Bee Buzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 11:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] MAP 5-Year Results Released from Cosmic Variance by Sean [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Secret American Planck Basher</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/03/05/wmap-5-year-results-released/#comment-312423</link>
		<dc:creator>Secret American Planck Basher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 08:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David (et al.) -- 

I would say from conversations with many people that Planck has been so long in development that by the time it does get up and running many of its results will be anticipated by other experiments (for example, the ground based ones.) Other than primordial gravitational waves (PGWs), I don't find much to get excited about relative to other things coming online -- which will mostly be telling us about the later universe. 

I don't find PGWs particularly exciting -- they are supposedly "pinning down" a free parameter for inflation, but let's be honest here: there are many varieties of inflation, too many, and did the WMAP result "ruling out" single-field phi^4 really change anything in the field? Not really. It was cool and fun, and worthy of celebration, but it had not enough impact on the proliferation of inflation models, and did little to provoke theorists and observers in new directions.

Other than that, perhaps the search for non-Gaussianity will be the biggest result from Planck. But it's hard to square with the massive amount of resources that have been expended. Could we have built a "non-Gaussian probe" better faster cheaper?

Definitely, Planck's results will not have the massive, stunning impact that WMAP's no-BS settling of the concordance model (taking "concordance" here to just mean a negative pressure fluid and not a pure cosmological constant) did. (By "settle" here, I don't mean "prove" -- I mean "provide the baseline against which new models must improve upon.")

Anyway, as I've been typing this I've mellowed a little on Planck. Perhaps there will be something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David (et al.) &#8212; </p>
<p>I would say from conversations with many people that Planck has been so long in development that by the time it does get up and running many of its results will be anticipated by other experiments (for example, the ground based ones.) Other than primordial gravitational waves (PGWs), I don&#8217;t find much to get excited about relative to other things coming online &#8212; which will mostly be telling us about the later universe. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t find PGWs particularly exciting &#8212; they are supposedly &#8220;pinning down&#8221; a free parameter for inflation, but let&#8217;s be honest here: there are many varieties of inflation, too many, and did the WMAP result &#8220;ruling out&#8221; single-field phi^4 really change anything in the field? Not really. It was cool and fun, and worthy of celebration, but it had not enough impact on the proliferation of inflation models, and did little to provoke theorists and observers in new directions.</p>
<p>Other than that, perhaps the search for non-Gaussianity will be the biggest result from Planck. But it&#8217;s hard to square with the massive amount of resources that have been expended. Could we have built a &#8220;non-Gaussian probe&#8221; better faster cheaper?</p>
<p>Definitely, Planck&#8217;s results will not have the massive, stunning impact that WMAP&#8217;s no-BS settling of the concordance model (taking &#8220;concordance&#8221; here to just mean a negative pressure fluid and not a pure cosmological constant) did. (By &#8220;settle&#8221; here, I don&#8217;t mean &#8220;prove&#8221; &#8212; I mean &#8220;provide the baseline against which new models must improve upon.&#8221;)</p>
<p>Anyway, as I&#8217;ve been typing this I&#8217;ve mellowed a little on Planck. Perhaps there will be something.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 03:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, it's just the standard error of the mean:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_error_(statistics)

The more data points you have, the broader the distribution looks to your eye, but the better-determined the mean of the distribution actually is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, it&#8217;s just the standard error of the mean:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_error_" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_error_</a>(statistics)</p>
<p>The more data points you have, the broader the distribution looks to your eye, but the better-determined the mean of the distribution actually is.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 23:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could someone explain how they get the error bars on that power spectrum plot?  It looks like the points are distributed much more widely than the error bars show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could someone explain how they get the error bars on that power spectrum plot?  It looks like the points are distributed much more widely than the error bars show.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/03/05/wmap-5-year-results-released/#comment-312374</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you actually get is a limit on the sum of the neutrino masses; you can't tell which individual ones are massive etc.  From &lt;a href="http://lambda.gsfc.nasa.gov/product/map/current/params/lcdm_sz_lens_mnu_tens_wmap5.cfm" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, the limit on the sum of the masses is 1.4 eV at 95% confidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you actually get is a limit on the sum of the neutrino masses; you can&#8217;t tell which individual ones are massive etc.  From <a href="http://lambda.gsfc.nasa.gov/product/map/current/params/lcdm_sz_lens_mnu_tens_wmap5.cfm" rel="nofollow">here</a>, the limit on the sum of the masses is 1.4 eV at 95% confidence.</p>
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