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		<title>By: Talk Like a Physicist Day &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/02/22/talk-like-a-physicist-day/#comment-312807</link>
		<dc:creator>Talk Like a Physicist Day &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] day ahead of us. After years of contemplation, Talk Like a Physicist Day is finally here, as predicted. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Talk Like a Physicist Day!</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/02/22/talk-like-a-physicist-day/#comment-312800</link>
		<dc:creator>Talk Like a Physicist Day!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] existed! I only found out this morning because of Tom&#8217;s post in Swans on Tea (in turn from this post in Cosmic Variance). Really, people, you need to keep me better [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] existed! I only found out this morning because of Tom&#8217;s post in Swans on Tea (in turn from this post in Cosmic Variance). Really, people, you need to keep me better [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dany</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/02/22/talk-like-a-physicist-day/#comment-312339</link>
		<dc:creator>Dany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 08:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, S.W. developed his own interpretation of that story.

I was educated on the other version:” The man has lost a quarter and he’s looking under a lamp post. One would like to help him. “Where you lost it?” Over there, about 20m from here.” If so, why you are looking here?” “Because no light there!” (“Physicists jokes”).
 
Regards, Dany.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, S.W. developed his own interpretation of that story.</p>
<p>I was educated on the other version:” The man has lost a quarter and he’s looking under a lamp post. One would like to help him. “Where you lost it?” Over there, about 20m from here.” If so, why you are looking here?” “Because no light there!” (“Physicists jokes”).</p>
<p>Regards, Dany.</p>
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		<title>By: Talk like you want &#124; zooped.org</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/02/22/talk-like-a-physicist-day/#comment-312329</link>
		<dc:creator>Talk like you want &#124; zooped.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 03:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that Pi day this year (3/14) has been declared the &#8216;Talk like a Physicist Day&#8217; (see also). Apparently, the day even got its own dot com, a website which skillfully manages to distract from [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that Pi day this year (3/14) has been declared the &#8216;Talk like a Physicist Day&#8217; (see also). Apparently, the day even got its own dot com, a website which skillfully manages to distract from [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dany</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/02/22/talk-like-a-physicist-day/#comment-312272</link>
		<dc:creator>Dany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 09:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean:” And, just in case you don’t know what it sounds like to talk like a physicist”

Compare:

S. Weinberg concluding comment (“Einstein and the Physics of the Future” (“Some Strangeness in the Proportions”, 506, Addison-Wesley (1980)):”I think the theoretical physicist is like the drunk in the story who has lost a quarter. He has no idea of where he lost it, but he’s looking under a lamp post because that is where the light is good. However, I always sympathize with the drunk. Because it is true. He doesn’t really know where he lost the quarter, but if he looks for it anywhere else but where the light is good, he is sure not going to find it.” 

vs
    
“Пусть где-нибудь все ясно и светло -
Там хорошо, - но мне туда не надо!”
(Let anywhere everything is clear and brightly -
It is good there- but I do not need to be there!)

Who sounds like to talk like a physicist?

Regards, Dany.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean:” And, just in case you don’t know what it sounds like to talk like a physicist”</p>
<p>Compare:</p>
<p>S. Weinberg concluding comment (“Einstein and the Physics of the Future” (“Some Strangeness in the Proportions”, 506, Addison-Wesley (1980)):”I think the theoretical physicist is like the drunk in the story who has lost a quarter. He has no idea of where he lost it, but he’s looking under a lamp post because that is where the light is good. However, I always sympathize with the drunk. Because it is true. He doesn’t really know where he lost the quarter, but if he looks for it anywhere else but where the light is good, he is sure not going to find it.” </p>
<p>vs</p>
<p>“Пусть где-нибудь все ясно и светло -<br />
Там хорошо, - но мне туда не надо!”<br />
(Let anywhere everything is clear and brightly -<br />
It is good there- but I do not need to be there!)</p>
<p>Who sounds like to talk like a physicist?</p>
<p>Regards, Dany.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/02/22/talk-like-a-physicist-day/#comment-311854</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My birthday is also March 14. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My birthday is also March 14. <img src='http://cosmicvariance.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/02/22/talk-like-a-physicist-day/#comment-311759</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 07:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You nitpickers all suck !
Dawkins is as close as we come to a 21rst century Carl Sagan, and instead of cheering him on, you wring your hands &#38; whine about this `n that.  Keepin up on current events, might lead the scientific community to `circle the wagons', and support Dawkins, w/out reservations !
Nothing could demo TRUST in the knowledge &#38; reality of science more than some average John/Jane Doe repeating Dawkins' role in the expt., devoid of fear.
Perhaps any of the presidential candidates would care to step up to the plate ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You nitpickers all suck !<br />
Dawkins is as close as we come to a 21rst century Carl Sagan, and instead of cheering him on, you wring your hands &amp; whine about this `n that.  Keepin up on current events, might lead the scientific community to `circle the wagons&#8217;, and support Dawkins, w/out reservations !<br />
Nothing could demo TRUST in the knowledge &amp; reality of science more than some average John/Jane Doe repeating Dawkins&#8217; role in the expt., devoid of fear.<br />
Perhaps any of the presidential candidates would care to step up to the plate ?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/02/22/talk-like-a-physicist-day/#comment-311676</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He's ripping off Walter Lewin and MIT.  check this out...  http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Physics/8-01Physics-IFall1999/CourseHome/index.htm

Dawkins is so full of horse pucky.  He can't present science in any meaning way to the public without going on some foolish anti-religious rant.  He routinely squares off against ignorant, lightweight straw men and "wins" his arguments by a series of ad hominum attacks.  Dawkins waffling is enough to impress Joe six pack or auntie , not an informed layman or auntie.  Dawkins isn't winning anyone over to the scientific view of the world.  It isn't hard for a career scientist to derail an opponent or even an informed member of the "opposition".  Dawkin's is like a grammar school teacher winning a debate against his hapless sixth grader students.  It isn't even an intellectual exercise, it's just snobbery.  God is simply NOT a scientific question.  God is a religious question.  Is Dawkins even a scientist?  Whatever the answer to that question may be he certain passes himself off as more of a writer, anti-theologian, and provocateur of the inexperienced and uninformed.  Based on the above link, you can add copycat.  I've wasted enough time bashing Dawkins, it's time for me to go out and berate my fellow man for his misguided belief in Newton's laws and his total ignorance of Hamilton's principle and action angle variables.  Well at least I stick to science...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s ripping off Walter Lewin and MIT.  check this out&#8230;  <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Physics/8-01Physics-IFall1999/CourseHome/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Physics/8-01Physics-IFall1999/CourseHome/index.htm</a></p>
<p>Dawkins is so full of horse pucky.  He can&#8217;t present science in any meaning way to the public without going on some foolish anti-religious rant.  He routinely squares off against ignorant, lightweight straw men and &#8220;wins&#8221; his arguments by a series of ad hominum attacks.  Dawkins waffling is enough to impress Joe six pack or auntie , not an informed layman or auntie.  Dawkins isn&#8217;t winning anyone over to the scientific view of the world.  It isn&#8217;t hard for a career scientist to derail an opponent or even an informed member of the &#8220;opposition&#8221;.  Dawkin&#8217;s is like a grammar school teacher winning a debate against his hapless sixth grader students.  It isn&#8217;t even an intellectual exercise, it&#8217;s just snobbery.  God is simply NOT a scientific question.  God is a religious question.  Is Dawkins even a scientist?  Whatever the answer to that question may be he certain passes himself off as more of a writer, anti-theologian, and provocateur of the inexperienced and uninformed.  Based on the above link, you can add copycat.  I&#8217;ve wasted enough time bashing Dawkins, it&#8217;s time for me to go out and berate my fellow man for his misguided belief in Newton&#8217;s laws and his total ignorance of Hamilton&#8217;s principle and action angle variables.  Well at least I stick to science&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mgary</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/02/22/talk-like-a-physicist-day/#comment-311578</link>
		<dc:creator>mgary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 01:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For any of you on facebook, there is now an event. http://ucsb.facebook.com/event.php?eid=21808140401
The event is global, so feel free to add it and it will appear on your calendar. Tell your friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For any of you on facebook, there is now an event. <a href="http://ucsb.facebook.com/event.php?eid=21808140401" rel="nofollow">http://ucsb.facebook.com/event.php?eid=21808140401</a><br />
The event is global, so feel free to add it and it will appear on your calendar. Tell your friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/02/22/talk-like-a-physicist-day/#comment-311547</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Smug puss," comments 11, 13, 14, 17, 25, 40 - Hilarity. Lab Lemming, I about feel out of my seat at that. I'm still laughing. This is good stuff guys, I'm glad Sean's dense sarcasm folded into mass physicist comedy. I find it a shame that others need to learn the language before they can appreciate this. Classic. Newton never had this much fun.

Wayne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Smug puss,&#8221; comments 11, 13, 14, 17, 25, 40 - Hilarity. Lab Lemming, I about feel out of my seat at that. I&#8217;m still laughing. This is good stuff guys, I&#8217;m glad Sean&#8217;s dense sarcasm folded into mass physicist comedy. I find it a shame that others need to learn the language before they can appreciate this. Classic. Newton never had this much fun.</p>
<p>Wayne</p>
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		<title>By: Lab Lemming</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/02/22/talk-like-a-physicist-day/#comment-311496</link>
		<dc:creator>Lab Lemming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 02:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the risk of side-tracking this thread...

Am I correct in observing that the particle plushies will fall to pieces without the existence of strings?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of side-tracking this thread&#8230;</p>
<p>Am I correct in observing that the particle plushies will fall to pieces without the existence of strings?</p>
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		<title>By: Neil B.</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/02/22/talk-like-a-physicist-day/#comment-311490</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MedallionOfFerret, you are indulging in the fallacy that all unproven entities/hypotheses are inherently equally credible, like other dimensions/or even God versus "the flying spaghetti monster."  It depends on the credibility of *that particular thing* coming into being (or being a default to already exist), and that depends on arguments peculiar to each of those postulated entities or at least categories they belong to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MedallionOfFerret, you are indulging in the fallacy that all unproven entities/hypotheses are inherently equally credible, like other dimensions/or even God versus &#8220;the flying spaghetti monster.&#8221;  It depends on the credibility of *that particular thing* coming into being (or being a default to already exist), and that depends on arguments peculiar to each of those postulated entities or at least categories they belong to.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/02/22/talk-like-a-physicist-day/#comment-311488</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Anon, you do rock.)

A true scientist might also realize that there is a &lt;em&gt;possible&lt;/em&gt;, though perhaps highly &lt;em&gt;improbable&lt;/em&gt;, chance that the observations he had made that led him to conclude that the pendulum would &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; hit him in the face were in error and/or incomplete.

All that remains then is to force the selection of &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; state from all possible states and voila! Pendulum in the face. (Not that I'd wish that on Dawkins.) It's not about a force that moves the pendulum; it's about what reinforces or destabilizes the preceding observations that lead to the &lt;em&gt;expectation&lt;/em&gt; that the pendulum will &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; hit him in the face.

(Was that a little too 'woo woo' for physicist talk? It's so hard to know...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Anon, you do rock.)</p>
<p>A true scientist might also realize that there is a <em>possible</em>, though perhaps highly <em>improbable</em>, chance that the observations he had made that led him to conclude that the pendulum would <em>not</em> hit him in the face were in error and/or incomplete.</p>
<p>All that remains then is to force the selection of <em>that</em> state from all possible states and voila! Pendulum in the face. (Not that I&#8217;d wish that on Dawkins.) It&#8217;s not about a force that moves the pendulum; it&#8217;s about what reinforces or destabilizes the preceding observations that lead to the <em>expectation</em> that the pendulum will <em>not</em> hit him in the face.</p>
<p>(Was that a little too &#8216;woo woo&#8217; for physicist talk? It&#8217;s so hard to know&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Ole Phat Stu</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/02/22/talk-like-a-physicist-day/#comment-311482</link>
		<dc:creator>Ole Phat Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was 14 I had an acne problem and used to twist the zits until they emitted their pus explosively (yeuch!).

In doing this, I torqued like a fizzy cyst ;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was 14 I had an acne problem and used to twist the zits until they emitted their pus explosively (yeuch!).</p>
<p>In doing this, I torqued like a fizzy cyst ;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Dualist</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/02/22/talk-like-a-physicist-day/#comment-311454</link>
		<dc:creator>Dualist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 05:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's interesting. And the name is perfect. Something like the movie "Ratatouille" where the chief cook say "Anyone can cook". So here comes the notion, "anyone can talk like physicists".

making it short we can easily say, "talk like a physicists". Physicists are insisting to talk like one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting. And the name is perfect. Something like the movie &#8220;Ratatouille&#8221; where the chief cook say &#8220;Anyone can cook&#8221;. So here comes the notion, &#8220;anyone can talk like physicists&#8221;.</p>
<p>making it short we can easily say, &#8220;talk like a physicists&#8221;. Physicists are insisting to talk like one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: John Merryman</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/02/22/talk-like-a-physicist-day/#comment-311448</link>
		<dc:creator>John Merryman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 03:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know! We could spend money investigating the nature of money! Such as that it can only be saved through effective investment, for which there is far more desire then potential, so we have these credit collapses. Maybe civilization will eventually come to understand money functions as a form of public utility for economic exchange, rather then as the private property we assume. No. I don't think the people with the money would want that. Better stick to fermions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know! We could spend money investigating the nature of money! Such as that it can only be saved through effective investment, for which there is far more desire then potential, so we have these credit collapses. Maybe civilization will eventually come to understand money functions as a form of public utility for economic exchange, rather then as the private property we assume. No. I don&#8217;t think the people with the money would want that. Better stick to fermions.</p>
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		<title>By: MedallionOfFerret</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/02/22/talk-like-a-physicist-day/#comment-311439</link>
		<dc:creator>MedallionOfFerret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon--Show the evidence of the phenomena, or even evidence for the possible existence of the phenomena.  That'll show Sean!  We all await your response with great anticipation!  Until the time you can do so, I suggest you also cover all bets by also seeking the Great Spaghetti Monster, for which the same arguments apply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon&#8211;Show the evidence of the phenomena, or even evidence for the possible existence of the phenomena.  That&#8217;ll show Sean!  We all await your response with great anticipation!  Until the time you can do so, I suggest you also cover all bets by also seeking the Great Spaghetti Monster, for which the same arguments apply.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil B.</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/02/22/talk-like-a-physicist-day/#comment-311429</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon: you rock! The only thing leaving me a bit cold is, to spend all that effort investigating the one-d concept etc.  Deficits are too high, life is too short, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon: you rock! The only thing leaving me a bit cold is, to spend all that effort investigating the one-d concept etc.  Deficits are too high, life is too short, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Nami</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/02/22/talk-like-a-physicist-day/#comment-311423</link>
		<dc:creator>Nami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, personally, like Dawkins and agree with him on most issues. But his approach appears very simplistic both in his books and shows. He usually answers questions that have obvious answers but ignores more difficult questions as if they don't exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, personally, like Dawkins and agree with him on most issues. But his approach appears very simplistic both in his books and shows. He usually answers questions that have obvious answers but ignores more difficult questions as if they don&#8217;t exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/02/22/talk-like-a-physicist-day/#comment-311422</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you call a Dawkins who relied on fancy “Newtonian mechanics,” probably based on some sort of “equations,” when doing a similar demonstration with a quantum-mechanical harmonic oscillator?  Schroedinger's Dawkins?</description>
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