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		<title>By: Maybe Obama should learn how to dumb himself down. &#171; blueollie</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/12/12/presidential-poll/#comment-308539</link>
		<dc:creator>Maybe Obama should learn how to dumb himself down. &#171; blueollie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] You know, there are many out there who actually like that. Perhaps that is why Obama does well among the intellectually interested crowd; see for example, the poll results from this physics blog. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] You know, there are many out there who actually like that. Perhaps that is why Obama does well among the intellectually interested crowd; see for example, the poll results from this physics blog. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Almighty Bob</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/12/12/presidential-poll/#comment-307897</link>
		<dc:creator>The Almighty Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Do I like Ron Paul sure, will I vote for him, probable, but so far I am undecided&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Please check the &lt;a href="http://www.answers.com/undecided&#38;r=67" rel="nofollow"&gt;definiton of "undecided"&lt;/a&gt;. It may surprise you.

Other than that, this isn't a newspaper or news show. Sean never made any kind of claim not to be biased. Those who control the site are perfectly within their rights to be biased, so long as it's stated up front. If it bothers you, do like the free market tells you, and go into competition: start your own site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Do I like Ron Paul sure, will I vote for him, probable, but so far I am undecided</p></blockquote>
<p>Please check the <a href="http://www.answers.com/undecided&amp;r=67" rel="nofollow">definiton of &#8220;undecided&#8221;</a>. It may surprise you.</p>
<p>Other than that, this isn&#8217;t a newspaper or news show. Sean never made any kind of claim not to be biased. Those who control the site are perfectly within their rights to be biased, so long as it&#8217;s stated up front. If it bothers you, do like the free market tells you, and go into competition: start your own site.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Dixon</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/12/12/presidential-poll/#comment-307894</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Dixon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 15:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow this is about the most unfair web site I have seen, not including Ron Paul, it's a very bias view. just another fine example of controlled media, sorry but I will not take part in any media that is bias, Do I like Ron Paul sure, will I vote for him, probable, but so far I am undecided, I like many Americans want to hear what all te candidates have to say not just what this web site or our mainstream media want us to hear, it is our right, all candidates are viable and therefore should be included in all debates.

As soon as a source takes that right away already makes it unfair regardless of who they are excluding and their reasons, this site is a prime example of of the distrust of media.

How about we all stop dreaming and stop being bias so we can all have a true vote, it's always interesting to me and yet it confuses me to no end that almost every straw vote I see mentions Ron Paul as the winner but yet mainstream media and many websites like this one talks as if Ron Paul is not even running and these mainstream polls are often and too many times very skewed, but yet you scream democracy hummm....  I beg to differ in your views. it makes me sick to know people are not honest in these elections, the American people deserve and demand better but yet this web site offers nothing but lies and skewed events. shame on you, this is my country as well as yours, do not dare take my right to vote based on your own agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow this is about the most unfair web site I have seen, not including Ron Paul, it&#8217;s a very bias view. just another fine example of controlled media, sorry but I will not take part in any media that is bias, Do I like Ron Paul sure, will I vote for him, probable, but so far I am undecided, I like many Americans want to hear what all te candidates have to say not just what this web site or our mainstream media want us to hear, it is our right, all candidates are viable and therefore should be included in all debates.</p>
<p>As soon as a source takes that right away already makes it unfair regardless of who they are excluding and their reasons, this site is a prime example of of the distrust of media.</p>
<p>How about we all stop dreaming and stop being bias so we can all have a true vote, it&#8217;s always interesting to me and yet it confuses me to no end that almost every straw vote I see mentions Ron Paul as the winner but yet mainstream media and many websites like this one talks as if Ron Paul is not even running and these mainstream polls are often and too many times very skewed, but yet you scream democracy hummm&#8230;.  I beg to differ in your views. it makes me sick to know people are not honest in these elections, the American people deserve and demand better but yet this web site offers nothing but lies and skewed events. shame on you, this is my country as well as yours, do not dare take my right to vote based on your own agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: Cleveland</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/12/12/presidential-poll/#comment-307411</link>
		<dc:creator>Cleveland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 23:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't figure out how, in my lifetime, how the notion of exclusion, ignorance, and censorship, is considered by a good many to be the new American way. The monopolistic corporate media already does a fine job at only spotlighting the candidates they have chosen for us as viable, while ignoring the others.

Even in their debate forums, Dennis Kucinich resorts to raising his hand or saying,"I'm here" to try to get the moderator to direct a question to him. How bogus is this kind of carnival display?

It isn't enough that we have this absurd system by which "legitimate" candidates qualify. A selection determined by how much money can be collected doesn't reflect the populist desire for solid Presidential timber.

Now, in the (as of now) bastion of freedom that is cyberspace, those who have the chance to test to boundless reaches of liberty and truth, would design a poll that
only fits their view of what is best for all of us and considers that if an otherwise, legitimate candidate does not fit (his) profile as a "winner", then that candidate is not worthy of being listed on his poll.

Indeed, many people need a civics lesson to remind them of how Democracy should work and what country they are lining in.

Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are bona fide candidates for President of the United States - certainly as much as dead weight like Fred Thompson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t figure out how, in my lifetime, how the notion of exclusion, ignorance, and censorship, is considered by a good many to be the new American way. The monopolistic corporate media already does a fine job at only spotlighting the candidates they have chosen for us as viable, while ignoring the others.</p>
<p>Even in their debate forums, Dennis Kucinich resorts to raising his hand or saying,&#8221;I&#8217;m here&#8221; to try to get the moderator to direct a question to him. How bogus is this kind of carnival display?</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t enough that we have this absurd system by which &#8220;legitimate&#8221; candidates qualify. A selection determined by how much money can be collected doesn&#8217;t reflect the populist desire for solid Presidential timber.</p>
<p>Now, in the (as of now) bastion of freedom that is cyberspace, those who have the chance to test to boundless reaches of liberty and truth, would design a poll that<br />
only fits their view of what is best for all of us and considers that if an otherwise, legitimate candidate does not fit (his) profile as a &#8220;winner&#8221;, then that candidate is not worthy of being listed on his poll.</p>
<p>Indeed, many people need a civics lesson to remind them of how Democracy should work and what country they are lining in.</p>
<p>Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are bona fide candidates for President of the United States - certainly as much as dead weight like Fred Thompson.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael R</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/12/12/presidential-poll/#comment-307320</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis Kucinich all the way!  The most courageous defender of the constitution of all the candidates.  He will change our country for the better, and we will all "just get along" better after his administration takes charge.  I agree that Paul and Gravel should be on the polls.  The reason people have not heard of some of the candidates, especially Kucinich is due to deliberate exclusion by the consolidated media.  I'ts time for the people to tell them what democracy means!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis Kucinich all the way!  The most courageous defender of the constitution of all the candidates.  He will change our country for the better, and we will all &#8220;just get along&#8221; better after his administration takes charge.  I agree that Paul and Gravel should be on the polls.  The reason people have not heard of some of the candidates, especially Kucinich is due to deliberate exclusion by the consolidated media.  I&#8217;ts time for the people to tell them what democracy means!</p>
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		<title>By: Holy Crap &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/12/12/presidential-poll/#comment-306471</link>
		<dc:creator>Holy Crap &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] promise I didn&#8217;t rig our informal poll, but I won&#8217;t pretend that I didn&#8217;t like the results. I would have guessed ahead of time [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] promise I didn&#8217;t rig our informal poll, but I won&#8217;t pretend that I didn&#8217;t like the results. I would have guessed ahead of time [...]</p>
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		<title>By: fooltomery</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/12/12/presidential-poll/#comment-306469</link>
		<dc:creator>fooltomery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An inexperienced suit with a resonant speaking voice is currently #1; an indeterminate Other is currently #2; a character-assassinating, power-hungry harridan is currently #3; and a mansion-dwelling, populist demagogue pretty-boy is currently #4.  

Just damn!

Love of physics and love of country are not incompatible, but this poll--as it currently stands--couldn't be used to prove that proposition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An inexperienced suit with a resonant speaking voice is currently #1; an indeterminate Other is currently #2; a character-assassinating, power-hungry harridan is currently #3; and a mansion-dwelling, populist demagogue pretty-boy is currently #4.  </p>
<p>Just damn!</p>
<p>Love of physics and love of country are not incompatible, but this poll&#8211;as it currently stands&#8211;couldn&#8217;t be used to prove that proposition.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/12/12/presidential-poll/#comment-306463</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF NO RON PAUL. THIS IS RIDICULOUS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF NO RON PAUL. THIS IS RIDICULOUS</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Bergman</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/12/12/presidential-poll/#comment-306436</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Bergman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the proper spelling is TRVTH!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the proper spelling is TRVTH!</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/12/12/presidential-poll/#comment-306435</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diocletian--  It's always a pleasure to be accused of political naivete by a Kucinich supporter.

Bob--  We use the same screening process on this blog that keeps David Horowitz and other qualified conservatives from landing plum academic positions.

CIP--  You're right!  I'm just afraid of the truth.  Or is that the Truth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diocletian&#8211;  It&#8217;s always a pleasure to be accused of political naivete by a Kucinich supporter.</p>
<p>Bob&#8211;  We use the same screening process on this blog that keeps David Horowitz and other qualified conservatives from landing plum academic positions.</p>
<p>CIP&#8211;  You&#8217;re right!  I&#8217;m just afraid of the truth.  Or is that the Truth?</p>
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		<title>By: capitalistimperialistpig</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/12/12/presidential-poll/#comment-306433</link>
		<dc:creator>capitalistimperialistpig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean, 
I'm sure it was an oversight, but you seem to have left out Alan Keyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean,<br />
I&#8217;m sure it was an oversight, but you seem to have left out Alan Keyes.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/12/12/presidential-poll/#comment-306430</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More evidence that the academic universe is liberal.  

So utterly disappointing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More evidence that the academic universe is liberal.  </p>
<p>So utterly disappointing.</p>
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		<title>By: J.R. "Bob" Dobbs</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/12/12/presidential-poll/#comment-306426</link>
		<dc:creator>J.R. "Bob" Dobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the Dem side, I'd be OK with Hillary or Obama, with a preference for Hillary.  On the GOP side, I'd probably be OK with Rudy or McCain.

I doubt any one of those 4 could conceivably be significantly worse than what we have now (and I voted for Bush in 2000 - didn't vote at all in 2004).  I wouldn't vote for any of the other GOP contenders for junior high Student Council, never mind President of the United States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the Dem side, I&#8217;d be OK with Hillary or Obama, with a preference for Hillary.  On the GOP side, I&#8217;d probably be OK with Rudy or McCain.</p>
<p>I doubt any one of those 4 could conceivably be significantly worse than what we have now (and I voted for Bush in 2000 - didn&#8217;t vote at all in 2004).  I wouldn&#8217;t vote for any of the other GOP contenders for junior high Student Council, never mind President of the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: Diocletian</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/12/12/presidential-poll/#comment-306423</link>
		<dc:creator>Diocletian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I was interested in people who actually have a chance of winning a nomination, not vanity candidates with less than 5% support. Sorry, deeply committed people of the internet!"

Not so fast there, Slick. You offer exclusively War Party   candidates, each of them declaring a willingness to strike Iran with nuclear bombs, and dismiss all others as unelectable.  That may be true, but to present such a restricted choice, as if it were copied from a TV screen, is  politically irresponsible for someone as influential as you are.  You've strayed too far from your bailiwick here, Sir. Please try to consider the importance of the issues of war, peace, 1.2 million dead Iraqis, torture ...a contempt for truth and the deliberate undermining of science..the enormity of the crimes that are openly committed as we watch.

Consider too, please, that your statement, coming from a  superbly talented physicist, constitutes a  blunder in the appraisal of cause and effect.  Kucinich is a lagging candidate because television ignores him, not vice versa.    

Your usual sparkling incisiveness and elegance of presentation, both in print and on radio, vanish in this dispiriting political naivete.  Please do some more reading and come back to this topic.  Kucinich and the progressive movement, or the peace movement, or whatever you want to call us, could use some help and some insight from a guy as smart as you are.

I'm reading your paper on Cosmology (or maybe it is a chapter that I downloaded) along with Weinberg's 1988 review paper. I had trouble following both of them until I stepped back and read most of Liddle's undergraduate book - a book with a few small flaws, but a really wonderful introduction. Now I can read all the papers with pleasure and profit. Trust me, a hoary old hippy who has been protesting for more than a century, physics is a lot more rewarding than politics.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I was interested in people who actually have a chance of winning a nomination, not vanity candidates with less than 5% support. Sorry, deeply committed people of the internet!&#8221;</p>
<p>Not so fast there, Slick. You offer exclusively War Party   candidates, each of them declaring a willingness to strike Iran with nuclear bombs, and dismiss all others as unelectable.  That may be true, but to present such a restricted choice, as if it were copied from a TV screen, is  politically irresponsible for someone as influential as you are.  You&#8217;ve strayed too far from your bailiwick here, Sir. Please try to consider the importance of the issues of war, peace, 1.2 million dead Iraqis, torture &#8230;a contempt for truth and the deliberate undermining of science..the enormity of the crimes that are openly committed as we watch.</p>
<p>Consider too, please, that your statement, coming from a  superbly talented physicist, constitutes a  blunder in the appraisal of cause and effect.  Kucinich is a lagging candidate because television ignores him, not vice versa.    </p>
<p>Your usual sparkling incisiveness and elegance of presentation, both in print and on radio, vanish in this dispiriting political naivete.  Please do some more reading and come back to this topic.  Kucinich and the progressive movement, or the peace movement, or whatever you want to call us, could use some help and some insight from a guy as smart as you are.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m reading your paper on Cosmology (or maybe it is a chapter that I downloaded) along with Weinberg&#8217;s 1988 review paper. I had trouble following both of them until I stepped back and read most of Liddle&#8217;s undergraduate book - a book with a few small flaws, but a really wonderful introduction. Now I can read all the papers with pleasure and profit. Trust me, a hoary old hippy who has been protesting for more than a century, physics is a lot more rewarding than politics.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/" rel="nofollow">http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cameron</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/12/12/presidential-poll/#comment-306421</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron Paul would get rid of the federal income tax but doesn't explain how he would make up that 1.2 trillion shortfall.  Truly a man of vision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Paul would get rid of the federal income tax but doesn&#8217;t explain how he would make up that 1.2 trillion shortfall.  Truly a man of vision.</p>
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		<title>By: sharon</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/12/12/presidential-poll/#comment-306411</link>
		<dc:creator>sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I voted for Huckabee, because I heart the film. But I'd definitely vote for Ru Paul if you'd given us the option. 

Lucky for you I won't be voting for any of them, what with being in the UK, eh? Still, at least I'm not this stupid:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I thought I’d read that Obama proposed a big cut in NASA’s budget to pay for education, though I can’t quickly find a reference to that. He kinda lost me on that one.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Good one: choose your candidate based on something you think you read somewhere but  can't find it now and don't know exactly what it was about anyway. No wonder America is screwed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I voted for Huckabee, because I heart the film. But I&#8217;d definitely vote for Ru Paul if you&#8217;d given us the option. </p>
<p>Lucky for you I won&#8217;t be voting for any of them, what with being in the UK, eh? Still, at least I&#8217;m not this stupid:</p>
<blockquote><p>I thought I’d read that Obama proposed a big cut in NASA’s budget to pay for education, though I can’t quickly find a reference to that. He kinda lost me on that one.</p></blockquote>
<p>Good one: choose your candidate based on something you think you read somewhere but  can&#8217;t find it now and don&#8217;t know exactly what it was about anyway. No wonder America is screwed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/12/12/presidential-poll/#comment-306408</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron Paul is my homeboy</description>
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		<title>By: Nick Ernst</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/12/12/presidential-poll/#comment-306406</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Ernst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Ron Paul supporters, how do you feel about &lt;a href="http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/issues/climate/index.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Global Warming&lt;/a&gt;? The man is opposed to international cooperation on the subject. There are many things that each state should be left to, but where you can throw your fist ends where another's face begins - if you take the issue of climate change seriously, don't take Ron Paul seriously.

Also he opposes student loans. Imagine if states had to provide loans for students - the richer states might be able to do it, for their population, but the poorer states would suffer, and thousands more students would try to flock into the increasingly impacted colleges, while the poorer states would loose more and more youth. (This is an extreme and simplified picture, but we get a lot done assuming cows to be perfectly spherical).


On the issue of Obama's NASA cuts, that's upsetting, but then again who are we going to send to space if elementary science education continues its descent? Jason M. Hendler had the best point, that NASA has been doing great work in autonavigation - for most space missions it would make economical sense to send an automated system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Ron Paul supporters, how do you feel about <a href="http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/issues/climate/index.html" rel="nofollow">Global Warming</a>? The man is opposed to international cooperation on the subject. There are many things that each state should be left to, but where you can throw your fist ends where another&#8217;s face begins - if you take the issue of climate change seriously, don&#8217;t take Ron Paul seriously.</p>
<p>Also he opposes student loans. Imagine if states had to provide loans for students - the richer states might be able to do it, for their population, but the poorer states would suffer, and thousands more students would try to flock into the increasingly impacted colleges, while the poorer states would loose more and more youth. (This is an extreme and simplified picture, but we get a lot done assuming cows to be perfectly spherical).</p>
<p>On the issue of Obama&#8217;s NASA cuts, that&#8217;s upsetting, but then again who are we going to send to space if elementary science education continues its descent? Jason M. Hendler had the best point, that NASA has been doing great work in autonavigation - for most space missions it would make economical sense to send an automated system.</p>
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		<title>By: tyler</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/12/12/presidential-poll/#comment-306396</link>
		<dc:creator>tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the Ron Paul links. The racism is disgusting and inexcusable. He is clearly a vile and deranged personality.

That second betting site is much more interesting and thought provoking, thanks for that too.

Why would Al Gore want to be president now? Things started going well for him as soon as he got out of politics. He's won every award known to humanity, other than a Tony, or perhaps Super Bowl MVP...more seriously, I have heard (and it makes sense) that, like Mike Bloomberg in NY, he is unwilling to go down in history as the male WASP spoiler that kept the first nonwhite and/or nonmale major presidential candidate from being elected.

Bill Richardson will make someone a phenomenal VP candidate. Are there betting odds on *that*? You could make some serious money that way I think.

Some folks in my family know Edwards well and say he is a very genuine, caring and intelligent man despite the ridiculous Southern-lawyer haircut. However, we will find final, convincing proof of the Flat Earth theory before he sits in the Oval Office.

(back to votegopher etc for continued, boring-but-necessary research into actual candidate positions...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the Ron Paul links. The racism is disgusting and inexcusable. He is clearly a vile and deranged personality.</p>
<p>That second betting site is much more interesting and thought provoking, thanks for that too.</p>
<p>Why would Al Gore want to be president now? Things started going well for him as soon as he got out of politics. He&#8217;s won every award known to humanity, other than a Tony, or perhaps Super Bowl MVP&#8230;more seriously, I have heard (and it makes sense) that, like Mike Bloomberg in NY, he is unwilling to go down in history as the male WASP spoiler that kept the first nonwhite and/or nonmale major presidential candidate from being elected.</p>
<p>Bill Richardson will make someone a phenomenal VP candidate. Are there betting odds on *that*? You could make some serious money that way I think.</p>
<p>Some folks in my family know Edwards well and say he is a very genuine, caring and intelligent man despite the ridiculous Southern-lawyer haircut. However, we will find final, convincing proof of the Flat Earth theory before he sits in the Oval Office.</p>
<p>(back to votegopher etc for continued, boring-but-necessary research into actual candidate positions&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/12/12/presidential-poll/#comment-306388</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis Kucinich. He's not only quite liberal, he's a vegan too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis Kucinich. He&#8217;s not only quite liberal, he&#8217;s a vegan too.</p>
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