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	<title>Comments on: Disinviting Larry</title>
	<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/20/disinviting-larry/</link>
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		<title>By: Yaroslav Bulatov</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/20/disinviting-larry/#comment-32265</link>
		<dc:creator>Yaroslav Bulatov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 17:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/20/disinviting-larry/#comment-32265</guid>
		<description>This reminds me of Richard Herrnstein affair -- in 1971 he published an article about heritability of IQ in Atlantic Monthly. As a result he was called a racist, and could no longer lecture on his specialty -- learning in pigeons, because of chanting mobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of Richard Herrnstein affair &#8212; in 1971 he published an article about heritability of IQ in Atlantic Monthly. As a result he was called a racist, and could no longer lecture on his specialty &#8212; learning in pigeons, because of chanting mobs.</p>
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		<title>By: blank pages &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;crazy and wrong&#8221; but &#8220;smart and well-informed&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/20/disinviting-larry/#comment-32202</link>
		<dc:creator>blank pages &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;crazy and wrong&#8221; but &#8220;smart and well-informed&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 10:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/20/disinviting-larry/#comment-32202</guid>
		<description>[...] Disinviting Larry und als Reaktion auf ein ebenfalls sehr empfehlenswertes Posting von Bitch [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Disinviting Larry und als Reaktion auf ein ebenfalls sehr empfehlenswertes Posting von Bitch [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Arun</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/20/disinviting-larry/#comment-32198</link>
		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 13:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/20/disinviting-larry/#comment-32198</guid>
		<description>What Ahmedinejad said at Columbia through the commentary of Col P. Lang:

http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2007/09/what-ahmadinaja.html

&lt;I&gt;It was quite a performance.  If this were a presidential debate, I would judge him the winner based on rhetorical skill and coolness under fire. &lt;/I&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Ahmedinejad said at Columbia through the commentary of Col P. Lang:</p>
<p><a href="http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2007/09/what-ahmadinaja.html" rel="nofollow">http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2007/09/what-ahmadinaja.html</a></p>
<p><i>It was quite a performance.  If this were a presidential debate, I would judge him the winner based on rhetorical skill and coolness under fire. </i></p>
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		<title>By: Alden Turnipseed</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/20/disinviting-larry/#comment-32197</link>
		<dc:creator>Alden Turnipseed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/20/disinviting-larry/#comment-32197</guid>
		<description>Affirmative action is part of Political Correctness.  It is a disease of ideology and it is  a deadly serious business.  It is Marxism translated from economic terms into cultural terms and in this case it has infested our academic institutions.

It is a totalitarian ideology. It peppers our universities and colleges with "victims" and has managed to create social constructs and turned them into degree conferring legitimacy.  This is where truth is suppressed since the realities that are under consideration contradict the reality of history.  Political Correctness is living the life of a lie.  Thus this ideology is creating a totalitarian state.

Thus with admissions and other administrative areas, affirmative action is an exercise in the system of expropriation.  It is theft.  The methods used are deconstructionist in that they remove all meaning and insert desired meanings.

Affirmative action is part of an official state ideology enforced against the people.  This is terrorism.  The terrorism of Political Correctness.  It seeks to destroy freedom and culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Affirmative action is part of Political Correctness.  It is a disease of ideology and it is  a deadly serious business.  It is Marxism translated from economic terms into cultural terms and in this case it has infested our academic institutions.</p>
<p>It is a totalitarian ideology. It peppers our universities and colleges with &#8220;victims&#8221; and has managed to create social constructs and turned them into degree conferring legitimacy.  This is where truth is suppressed since the realities that are under consideration contradict the reality of history.  Political Correctness is living the life of a lie.  Thus this ideology is creating a totalitarian state.</p>
<p>Thus with admissions and other administrative areas, affirmative action is an exercise in the system of expropriation.  It is theft.  The methods used are deconstructionist in that they remove all meaning and insert desired meanings.</p>
<p>Affirmative action is part of an official state ideology enforced against the people.  This is terrorism.  The terrorism of Political Correctness.  It seeks to destroy freedom and culture.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/20/disinviting-larry/#comment-32196</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/20/disinviting-larry/#comment-32196</guid>
		<description>Jud,

Perhaps I was unclear. When I said "you have the choice to ignore it" I meant that to explicitly exclude you workplace or educational institution where you do not have that choice. The first sentence of the paragraph refers to workplace/educational institution where you can be held accountable. I think we are in agreement on what is/is not protected speech. Workplace actions are different.

Elliot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jud,</p>
<p>Perhaps I was unclear. When I said &#8220;you have the choice to ignore it&#8221; I meant that to explicitly exclude you workplace or educational institution where you do not have that choice. The first sentence of the paragraph refers to workplace/educational institution where you can be held accountable. I think we are in agreement on what is/is not protected speech. Workplace actions are different.</p>
<p>Elliot</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Bergman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/20/disinviting-larry/#comment-32264</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Bergman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/20/disinviting-larry/#comment-32264</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;it is also not correct that a single instance is insufficient. &lt;/i&gt;

I said "generally". Single incident cases do exist as I understand it, but there is a requirement that said incident has to be extraordinarily "severe". In the cases I've seen, such incidents often involve physical contact.

Quid pro quo harrassment is a different case, however, I believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>it is also not correct that a single instance is insufficient. </i></p>
<p>I said &#8220;generally&#8221;. Single incident cases do exist as I understand it, but there is a requirement that said incident has to be extraordinarily &#8220;severe&#8221;. In the cases I&#8217;ve seen, such incidents often involve physical contact.</p>
<p>Quid pro quo harrassment is a different case, however, I believe.</p>
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		<title>By: Jud</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/20/disinviting-larry/#comment-32263</link>
		<dc:creator>Jud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/20/disinviting-larry/#comment-32263</guid>
		<description>Elliott wrote: "If on the other hand someone 'peacefully' makes any type of derogatory speech however offensive or horrifying and you have the choice to ignore it, their actions are protected."

Sorry, Elliott, I think you make some good points, but you're quite wrong on the law - derogatory or offensive speech is clearly sufficient to create an illegally hostile work environment.

And Aaron, it is also not correct that a single instance is insufficient.  I'm sure you can imagine examples of single instances of derogatory or offensive "expression" (remember, this is not limited to speech, and includes forms such as cartoons, signs, photos, etc.) so odious as to permanently handicap an employee's work performance or intimidate him/her, which would meet legal criteria for a hostile work environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elliott wrote: &#8220;If on the other hand someone &#8216;peacefully&#8217; makes any type of derogatory speech however offensive or horrifying and you have the choice to ignore it, their actions are protected.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry, Elliott, I think you make some good points, but you&#8217;re quite wrong on the law - derogatory or offensive speech is clearly sufficient to create an illegally hostile work environment.</p>
<p>And Aaron, it is also not correct that a single instance is insufficient.  I&#8217;m sure you can imagine examples of single instances of derogatory or offensive &#8220;expression&#8221; (remember, this is not limited to speech, and includes forms such as cartoons, signs, photos, etc.) so odious as to permanently handicap an employee&#8217;s work performance or intimidate him/her, which would meet legal criteria for a hostile work environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/20/disinviting-larry/#comment-32262</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 05:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/20/disinviting-larry/#comment-32262</guid>
		<description>Tonight's News: The 4 top GOP candidates for President  all decided to skip a debate at a black university moderated by Tavis Smiley. That behavior speaks volumes about what the GOP "really" thinks about the black voter.

Elliot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonight&#8217;s News: The 4 top GOP candidates for President  all decided to skip a debate at a black university moderated by Tavis Smiley. That behavior speaks volumes about what the GOP &#8220;really&#8221; thinks about the black voter.</p>
<p>Elliot</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/20/disinviting-larry/#comment-32261</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/20/disinviting-larry/#comment-32261</guid>
		<description>Belizean,

Now who is insulting the intelligence of blacks. If the overwhelming majority (approx 90%) support Democrats are they simply stupid not to see what a land of opportunity the GOP will afford them.

Elliot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Belizean,</p>
<p>Now who is insulting the intelligence of blacks. If the overwhelming majority (approx 90%) support Democrats are they simply stupid not to see what a land of opportunity the GOP will afford them.</p>
<p>Elliot</p>
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		<title>By: Belizean</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/20/disinviting-larry/#comment-32242</link>
		<dc:creator>Belizean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/20/disinviting-larry/#comment-32242</guid>
		<description>Elliot,

That's a bit like saying that from a social perspective, Barny Frank is a woman.  So what?

Your statement is irrelevant to the point: anti-Black racism is negligible in the Republican party.  This is in contradistinction to the Left, where Blacks, women, and members of other historically oppressed groups are herded like children into metaphorical reservations, where well-meaning liberals guard them even from potentially offensive &lt;i&gt;speech&lt;/i&gt; by, for example, dis-inviting Larry.

Count Iblis,

Only by idiots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elliot,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a bit like saying that from a social perspective, Barny Frank is a woman.  So what?</p>
<p>Your statement is irrelevant to the point: anti-Black racism is negligible in the Republican party.  This is in contradistinction to the Left, where Blacks, women, and members of other historically oppressed groups are herded like children into metaphorical reservations, where well-meaning liberals guard them even from potentially offensive <i>speech</i> by, for example, dis-inviting Larry.</p>
<p>Count Iblis,</p>
<p>Only by idiots.</p>
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