Comments on: The Spirits of Those Who Have Been Destroyed By Love http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/24/the-spirits-of-those-who-have-been-destroyed-by-love/ Random samplings from a universe of ideas Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:54:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Amara http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/24/the-spirits-of-those-who-have-been-destroyed-by-love/#comment-259405 Amara Wed, 09 May 2007 13:21:55 +0000 http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/24/the-spirits-of-those-who-have-been-destroyed-by-love/#comment-259405 "Along the way his party is diverted to Carthage by winds whipped up by the wind god Aeolus" That ol' prankster Aeolus...! Even <a href="http://www.amara.com/volcanoes/volcanoes.html#lighthouse" rel="nofollow">Odysseus could not keep those winds in hand</a>. “Along the way his party is diverted to Carthage by winds whipped up by the wind god Aeolus”

That ol’ prankster Aeolus…! Even Odysseus could not keep those winds in hand.

]]> By: spaceman http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/24/the-spirits-of-those-who-have-been-destroyed-by-love/#comment-259367 spaceman Wed, 09 May 2007 11:32:32 +0000 http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/24/the-spirits-of-those-who-have-been-destroyed-by-love/#comment-259367 There is a fundamental dilemma in many of our chases after romantic love: we often want the other to love us and for our time with them to be filled with joy and unconditional love, but we also want novelty and excitement. And if we are very sure and know how things will work out ahead of time, then the sense of novelty and excitement wanes. Is this perhaps part of the reason why some people cheat on their significant others and have flings-- because the fling allows one to have novelty, excitement, and risk whereas a long term relationship should, at least in theory, be based on nearly unconditional love and security? There is a fundamental dilemma in many of our chases after romantic love: we often want the other to love us and for our time with them to be filled with joy and unconditional love, but we also want novelty and excitement. And if we are very sure and know how things will work out ahead of time, then the sense of novelty and excitement wanes. Is this perhaps part of the reason why some people cheat on their significant others and have flings– because the fling allows one to have novelty, excitement, and risk whereas a long term relationship should, at least in theory, be based on nearly unconditional love and security?

]]> By: spyder http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/24/the-spirits-of-those-who-have-been-destroyed-by-love/#comment-253510 spyder Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:16:05 +0000 http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/24/the-spirits-of-those-who-have-been-destroyed-by-love/#comment-253510 Just want to share a Robert Hunter love poem, when he was digging into Rilke. Look out of any window any morning, any evening, any day Maybe the sun is shining birds are winging or rain is falling from a heavy sky - What do you want me to do, to do for you to see you through? this is all a dream we dreamed one afternoon long ago Walk out of any doorway feel your way, feel your way like the day before Maybe you'll find direction around some corner where it's been waiting to meet you - What do you want me to do, to watch for you while you're sleeping? Well please don't be surprised when you find me dreaming too Look into any eyes you find by you, you can see clear through to another day I know it's been seen before through other eyes on other days while going home -- What do you want me to do, to do for you to see you through? It's all a dream we dreamed one afternoon long ago Walk into splintered sunlight Inch your way through dead dreams to another land Maybe you're tired and broken Your tongue is twisted with words half spoken and thoughts unclear What do you want me to do to do for you to see you through A box of rain will ease the pain and love will see you through Just a box of rain - wind and water - Believe it if you need it, if you don't just pass it on Sun and shower - Wind and rain - in and out the window like a moth before a flame It's just a box of rain I don't know who put it there Believe it if you need it or leave it if you dare But it's just a box of rain or a ribbon for your hair Such a long long time to be gone and a short time to be there Just want to share a Robert Hunter love poem, when he was digging into Rilke.

Look out of any window
any morning, any evening, any day
Maybe the sun is shining
birds are winging or
rain is falling from a heavy sky -
What do you want me to do,
to do for you to see you through?
this is all a dream we dreamed
one afternoon long ago

Walk out of any doorway
feel your way, feel your way
like the day before
Maybe you’ll find direction
around some corner
where it’s been waiting to meet you -
What do you want me to do,
to watch for you while you’re sleeping?
Well please don’t be surprised
when you find me dreaming too

Look into any eyes
you find by you, you can see
clear through to another day
I know it’s been seen before
through other eyes on other days
while going home –
What do you want me to do,
to do for you to see you through?
It’s all a dream we dreamed
one afternoon long ago

Walk into splintered sunlight
Inch your way through dead dreams
to another land
Maybe you’re tired and broken
Your tongue is twisted
with words half spoken
and thoughts unclear
What do you want me to do
to do for you to see you through
A box of rain will ease the pain
and love will see you through

Just a box of rain -
wind and water -
Believe it if you need it,
if you don’t just pass it on
Sun and shower -
Wind and rain -
in and out the window
like a moth before a flame

It’s just a box of rain
I don’t know who put it there
Believe it if you need it
or leave it if you dare
But it’s just a box of rain
or a ribbon for your hair
Such a long long time to be gone
and a short time to be there

]]> By: Janet Leslie Blumberg http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/24/the-spirits-of-those-who-have-been-destroyed-by-love/#comment-253344 Janet Leslie Blumberg Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:50:38 +0000 http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/24/the-spirits-of-those-who-have-been-destroyed-by-love/#comment-253344 "So is the scene tragic, or secretly facetious?" I get it. It's either tragic, or it's tragedy to the nth power. “So is the scene tragic, or secretly facetious?”

I get it. It’s either tragic, or it’s tragedy to the nth power.

]]> By: Ike http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/24/the-spirits-of-those-who-have-been-destroyed-by-love/#comment-252864 Ike Wed, 25 Apr 2007 00:07:39 +0000 http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/24/the-spirits-of-those-who-have-been-destroyed-by-love/#comment-252864 Change "Tragic Dido" to "Tragic Dodo" and you have a whole new poem with an entirely different meaning. Change “Tragic Dido” to “Tragic Dodo” and you have a whole new poem with an entirely different meaning.

]]> By: Twosheds http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/24/the-spirits-of-those-who-have-been-destroyed-by-love/#comment-252809 Twosheds Tue, 24 Apr 2007 23:03:25 +0000 http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/24/the-spirits-of-those-who-have-been-destroyed-by-love/#comment-252809 My high school Latin class read the Aenied, and our running joke throughout the year was how often Aeneas was bursting into tears. The fact that it can rarely be quoted without a reference to weepy Aeneas, just goes to show that this was an accurate observation. I'm glad I remembered the most important parts... My high school Latin class read the Aenied, and our running joke throughout the year was how often Aeneas was bursting into tears. The fact that it can rarely be quoted without a reference to weepy Aeneas, just goes to show that this was an accurate observation. I’m glad I remembered the most important parts…

]]> By: Blake Stacey http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/24/the-spirits-of-those-who-have-been-destroyed-by-love/#comment-252541 Blake Stacey Tue, 24 Apr 2007 18:19:08 +0000 http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/24/the-spirits-of-those-who-have-been-destroyed-by-love/#comment-252541 Nabokov's <i>Lolita</i> also drew upon Catullus — Humbert's repeated invocations of "this Lolita, my Lolita" and related forms all follow a Catullan template (<a href="http://www.vroma.org/~hwalker/VRomaCatullus/058.html" rel="nofollow">poem 58</a>). Nabokov’s Lolita also drew upon Catullus — Humbert’s repeated invocations of “this Lolita, my Lolita” and related forms all follow a Catullan template (poem 58).

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