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	<title>Comments on: MiniBooNE Neutrino Result - Guest Blog from Heather Ray</title>
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		<title>By: Dark Matter &#187; MiniBooNE Neutrino Oscillation data - : Mostly consistent with the standard model</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/11/miniboone-neutrino-result-guest-blog-from-heather-ray/#comment-264726</link>
		<dc:creator>Dark Matter &#187; MiniBooNE Neutrino Oscillation data - : Mostly consistent with the standard model</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 06:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The experiment started in 1997 and the results were announced  today. For most of the neutrino energy range they looked at, they did not see any more electron neutrinos than would be predicted by the Standard Model. But at the lower energies, the scientists did see more electron neutrinos than predicted: 369, rather than the predicted 273! Also see an excellent blog by Heather Ray. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The experiment started in 1997 and the results were announced  today. For most of the neutrino energy range they looked at, they did not see any more electron neutrinos than would be predicted by the Standard Model. But at the lower energies, the scientists did see more electron neutrinos than predicted: 369, rather than the predicted 273! Also see an excellent blog by Heather Ray. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: HelloWorld</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/11/miniboone-neutrino-result-guest-blog-from-heather-ray/#comment-255081</link>
		<dc:creator>HelloWorld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 11:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peace people 
 
We love you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peace people </p>
<p>We love you</p>
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		<title>By: Susan, Heather's Momma</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/11/miniboone-neutrino-result-guest-blog-from-heather-ray/#comment-250726</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan, Heather's Momma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 14:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was beyond proud when I read this, however, I was curious as to how many scientists would catch the relevance of the black and gold attire in the photo...I am even more proud to see many of you did!! The picture was taken 2/06 in Detriot at the Super Bowl.. Heather and I had built our first new house and actually spent the porch money to watch our beloved Steelers get one for the thumb!! Here we go Steelers, Here we go!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was beyond proud when I read this, however, I was curious as to how many scientists would catch the relevance of the black and gold attire in the photo&#8230;I am even more proud to see many of you did!! The picture was taken 2/06 in Detriot at the Super Bowl.. Heather and I had built our first new house and actually spent the porch money to watch our beloved Steelers get one for the thumb!! Here we go Steelers, Here we go!!</p>
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		<title>By: Working Blind &#171; Charm &#38;c.</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/11/miniboone-neutrino-result-guest-blog-from-heather-ray/#comment-247804</link>
		<dc:creator>Working Blind &#171; Charm &#38;c.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 04:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The MiniBooNE collaboration recently released initial results searching for muon neutrinos turning into electron neutrinos. A very nice and detailed discussion of the physics and experiment is here, and I won&#8217;t repeat it; instead I&#8217;m going to talk a bit about the kind of analysis they did â€” a &#8220;blind analysis.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The MiniBooNE collaboration recently released initial results searching for muon neutrinos turning into electron neutrinos. A very nice and detailed discussion of the physics and experiment is here, and I won&#8217;t repeat it; instead I&#8217;m going to talk a bit about the kind of analysis they did â€” a &#8220;blind analysis.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Yvette</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/11/miniboone-neutrino-result-guest-blog-from-heather-ray/#comment-246560</link>
		<dc:creator>Yvette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 07:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How exciting!  Go Stillers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How exciting!  Go Stillers!</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/11/miniboone-neutrino-result-guest-blog-from-heather-ray/#comment-246378</link>
		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 19:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Count,

to me it's not clear - that's why I was asking. There is a lot of talking about method one and method two and so on in that paper. I am not an expert on this, so I find it kind of confusing. I am just puzzled that if there are different methods at all, shouldn't there be an errorbar on that cross-section? Esp. if there are so little data points in the relevant energy region? If that cross-section was somewhat different wouldn't it affect the number of expected events (not sure if it would do the same to the background since I am not sure exactly what contributes to that background).  Best,

B.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Count,</p>
<p>to me it&#8217;s not clear - that&#8217;s why I was asking. There is a lot of talking about method one and method two and so on in that paper. I am not an expert on this, so I find it kind of confusing. I am just puzzled that if there are different methods at all, shouldn&#8217;t there be an errorbar on that cross-section? Esp. if there are so little data points in the relevant energy region? If that cross-section was somewhat different wouldn&#8217;t it affect the number of expected events (not sure if it would do the same to the background since I am not sure exactly what contributes to that background).  Best,</p>
<p>B.</p>
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		<title>By: Mustafa Mond, FCD</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/11/miniboone-neutrino-result-guest-blog-from-heather-ray/#comment-246315</link>
		<dc:creator>Mustafa Mond, FCD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 15:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Hence LSND and MiniBooNE are consistent if one accepts that neutrino mass scale depends on its energy as TGD strongly suggests. For details see the posting at  my blog page.
Matti Pitkanen&lt;/i&gt;

Did I miss something? What does MiniBoonE have to do with Richard Dawkins' &lt;i&gt;The God Delusion&lt;/i&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Hence LSND and MiniBooNE are consistent if one accepts that neutrino mass scale depends on its energy as TGD strongly suggests. For details see the posting at  my blog page.<br />
Matti Pitkanen</i></p>
<p>Did I miss something? What does MiniBoonE have to do with Richard Dawkins&#8217; <i>The God Delusion</i>?</p>
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		<title>By: MiniBooNE Results are in &#171; The Crackpot&#8217;s Mind</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/11/miniboone-neutrino-result-guest-blog-from-heather-ray/#comment-246314</link>
		<dc:creator>MiniBooNE Results are in &#171; The Crackpot&#8217;s Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 15:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;m not a neutrino physicist, so I couldn&#8217;t give you very good information, but a blog entry by a guest writer for Cosmic Variance provides a pretty good description of what exactly is going on. Fascinating stuff, truly.   14 Apr 07 &#124; Physics [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;m not a neutrino physicist, so I couldn&#8217;t give you very good information, but a blog entry by a guest writer for Cosmic Variance provides a pretty good description of what exactly is going on. Fascinating stuff, truly.   14 Apr 07 | Physics [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin Polhemus</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/11/miniboone-neutrino-result-guest-blog-from-heather-ray/#comment-246251</link>
		<dc:creator>Gavin Polhemus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 10:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Niel B.

&lt;blockquote&gt;[If neutrinos] really arenâ€™t going at the speed of light, but even a bit less, then their spin canâ€™t be inherently left-handed. Why not? Because, a sufficiently fast-moving observer could be moving past them, and would see a neutrinoâ€™s spin going the wrong way relative to its velocity.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is correct, so there must be a right handed version of the neutrino.  There is: the anti-neutrino.  When you reverse the direction of a neutrino it changes helicity, but it also changes to an anti-neutrino, so no new particle needs to be added to the standard model to account for neutrino masses.

Although somewhat academic, we should probably think of the neutrinos as their own antiparticles (i.e. they don't get arrows in Feynman  diagrams) and allow them to come in both right and left handed versions.  (In technical language, we should think of them as real four component spinors rather than complex two component spinors).  This doesn't require a dramatic change in thinking.  When you hear "neutrino" just think "left-handed neutrino" and when you hear anti-neutrino think "right-handed neutrino."  We all know that mass terms mix right-handed and left-handed, so there's nothing to worry about.  (Except for lepton number, which is no longer well defined.  No matter.  Lepton number isn't conserved anyway once you add neutrino masses).

Gavin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niel B.</p>
<blockquote><p>[If neutrinos] really arenâ€™t going at the speed of light, but even a bit less, then their spin canâ€™t be inherently left-handed. Why not? Because, a sufficiently fast-moving observer could be moving past them, and would see a neutrinoâ€™s spin going the wrong way relative to its velocity.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is correct, so there must be a right handed version of the neutrino.  There is: the anti-neutrino.  When you reverse the direction of a neutrino it changes helicity, but it also changes to an anti-neutrino, so no new particle needs to be added to the standard model to account for neutrino masses.</p>
<p>Although somewhat academic, we should probably think of the neutrinos as their own antiparticles (i.e. they don&#8217;t get arrows in Feynman  diagrams) and allow them to come in both right and left handed versions.  (In technical language, we should think of them as real four component spinors rather than complex two component spinors).  This doesn&#8217;t require a dramatic change in thinking.  When you hear &#8220;neutrino&#8221; just think &#8220;left-handed neutrino&#8221; and when you hear anti-neutrino think &#8220;right-handed neutrino.&#8221;  We all know that mass terms mix right-handed and left-handed, so there&#8217;s nothing to worry about.  (Except for lepton number, which is no longer well defined.  No matter.  Lepton number isn&#8217;t conserved anyway once you add neutrino masses).</p>
<p>Gavin</p>
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		<title>By: Ellipsis</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/11/miniboone-neutrino-result-guest-blog-from-heather-ray/#comment-246206</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellipsis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 08:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many more years of booster running would an antineutrino analysis of comparable sensitivity to the present MiniBooNE neutrino results take?

I.e. could you say a little about the cost/benefits of continuing at FNAL, vs. a new facility at SNS?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many more years of booster running would an antineutrino analysis of comparable sensitivity to the present MiniBooNE neutrino results take?</p>
<p>I.e. could you say a little about the cost/benefits of continuing at FNAL, vs. a new facility at SNS?</p>
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		<title>By: Generalized Nonsense</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/11/miniboone-neutrino-result-guest-blog-from-heather-ray/#comment-246147</link>
		<dc:creator>Generalized Nonsense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 03:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] MiniBooNE saves the standard model of particle physics: it finds no neutrino oscillations where LSND did, which means there is no reason to believe any new physics (such as sterile neutrinos) is required by LSND. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] MiniBooNE saves the standard model of particle physics: it finds no neutrino oscillations where LSND did, which means there is no reason to believe any new physics (such as sterile neutrinos) is required by LSND. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Piecefu</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/11/miniboone-neutrino-result-guest-blog-from-heather-ray/#comment-246070</link>
		<dc:creator>Piecefu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neil B. --
I've thought about that too, but it turns out not to matter too much. Wikipedia explains it better than I could: 

      "The existence of nonzero neutrino masses somewhat complicates the situation. Neutrinos are produced in weak interactions as chirality eigenstates. However, chirality of a massive particle is not a constant of motion; helicity is, but the chirality operator does not share eigenstates with the helicity operator. Free neutrinos propagate as mixtures of left- and right-handed helicity states, with mixing amplitudes on the order of mÎ½ / E. This does not significantly affect the experiments, because neutrinos involved are nearly always ultrarelativistic, and thus mixing amplitudes are vanishingly small (for example, most solar neutrinos have energies on the order of 100 keV â€“ 1 MeV, so the fraction of neutrinos with "wrong" helicity among them can't exceed 10 âˆ’ 10)."

See complete article &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrino#Handedness" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil B. &#8211;<br />
I&#8217;ve thought about that too, but it turns out not to matter too much. Wikipedia explains it better than I could: </p>
<p>      &#8220;The existence of nonzero neutrino masses somewhat complicates the situation. Neutrinos are produced in weak interactions as chirality eigenstates. However, chirality of a massive particle is not a constant of motion; helicity is, but the chirality operator does not share eigenstates with the helicity operator. Free neutrinos propagate as mixtures of left- and right-handed helicity states, with mixing amplitudes on the order of mÎ½ / E. This does not significantly affect the experiments, because neutrinos involved are nearly always ultrarelativistic, and thus mixing amplitudes are vanishingly small (for example, most solar neutrinos have energies on the order of 100 keV â€“ 1 MeV, so the fraction of neutrinos with &#8220;wrong&#8221; helicity among them can&#8217;t exceed 10 âˆ’ 10).&#8221;</p>
<p>See complete article <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrino#Handedness" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Count Iblis</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/11/miniboone-neutrino-result-guest-blog-from-heather-ray/#comment-246055</link>
		<dc:creator>Count Iblis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B,

Isn't that explained in the article by
Lipari?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B,</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that explained in the article by<br />
Lipari?</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/11/miniboone-neutrino-result-guest-blog-from-heather-ray/#comment-246046</link>
		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>question: could somebody comment on how reliable this cross-section

http://www-boone.fnal.gov/cross-sections/boone_reference.html

is in the observed energy range? It is not really clear to me how much of the total cross-section is a fit and what is a calculation. thanks,

B.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>question: could somebody comment on how reliable this cross-section</p>
<p><a href="http://www-boone.fnal.gov/cross-sections/boone_reference.html" rel="nofollow">http://www-boone.fnal.gov/cross-sections/boone_reference.html</a></p>
<p>is in the observed energy range? It is not really clear to me how much of the total cross-section is a fit and what is a calculation. thanks,</p>
<p>B.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Daum</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/11/miniboone-neutrino-result-guest-blog-from-heather-ray/#comment-246006</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Daum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Spectacular Neutrino Results from&#160;Fermilab&lt;/strong&gt;

I&#8217;m always excited to hear news from my old haunt Fermilab.Â  The latest is a terrific new result on neutrinos from the MiniBooNE experiment.Â  There&#8217;s a terrific explanation on Cosmic Variance by Heather Ray.Â  The new results move us clos...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Spectacular Neutrino Results from&nbsp;Fermilab</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;m always excited to hear news from my old haunt Fermilab.Â  The latest is a terrific new result on neutrinos from the MiniBooNE experiment.Â  There&#8217;s a terrific explanation on Cosmic Variance by Heather Ray.Â  The new results move us clos&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: not too shabby</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/11/miniboone-neutrino-result-guest-blog-from-heather-ray/#comment-245866</link>
		<dc:creator>not too shabby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The masslessness of neutrinos is hardly required by the standard model. Neutrino masses can be generated through yukawa-type couplings just like all the other fermions. Of course this is not very satisfying and it's still a puzzle why these particular yukawa couplings are so small etc etc. But I'm just saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The masslessness of neutrinos is hardly required by the standard model. Neutrino masses can be generated through yukawa-type couplings just like all the other fermions. Of course this is not very satisfying and it&#8217;s still a puzzle why these particular yukawa couplings are so small etc etc. But I&#8217;m just saying.</p>
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		<title>By: archgoon</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/11/miniboone-neutrino-result-guest-blog-from-heather-ray/#comment-245824</link>
		<dc:creator>archgoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 05:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, let me see if I have this sorted out (probably not):

1. According to the Standard Model, neutrinos are massless.

2. According to a number of different experiments, neutrinos appear to be oscillate their flavor, which only works if they have mass.

3. This should only be happening at a single energy range (why?), and we have 3 different ranges provided by different experiments. The MiniBooNE experiment has ruled out one of the ranges, which was suggested by the results of the LSND experiment. Does this mean we don't know how to currently explain the LSND data?

Is this somewhat correct?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, let me see if I have this sorted out (probably not):</p>
<p>1. According to the Standard Model, neutrinos are massless.</p>
<p>2. According to a number of different experiments, neutrinos appear to be oscillate their flavor, which only works if they have mass.</p>
<p>3. This should only be happening at a single energy range (why?), and we have 3 different ranges provided by different experiments. The MiniBooNE experiment has ruled out one of the ranges, which was suggested by the results of the LSND experiment. Does this mean we don&#8217;t know how to currently explain the LSND data?</p>
<p>Is this somewhat correct?</p>
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		<title>By: Diogenes</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/11/miniboone-neutrino-result-guest-blog-from-heather-ray/#comment-245789</link>
		<dc:creator>Diogenes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 03:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-"Interesting. One of the thoughts Iâ€™ve (and others) had about neutrinos: 
-if they really arenâ€™t going at the speed of light, but even a bit less, then 
-their spin canâ€™t be inherently left-handed. Why not? Because, a sufficiently -fast-moving observer could be moving past them, and would see a 
-neutrinoâ€™s spin going the wrong way relative to its velocity. Their spins 
-would be an artifact of the creation process. Any thoughts on this?
-Neil B.  on Apr 12th, 2007 at 8:55 pm"


You are completely correct, and this effect is included in the theory of neutrino masses as appears in standard texts. The projection of the neutrino spin along its direction of motion is it's "helicity". There is another measure of the "handedness" of a relativistic spin one half-particle  called "chirality" that is easily defined in terms of the matrices appearing in the Dirac equation, and this measure does NOT depend on the reference frame in which you observe the particle. For massless particles these measures of "handedness" agree, but for massive particles they can disagree for exactly the reason you describe, ie. by moving past the particle you can reverse it's direction of motion, hence it's apparent helicity. When a neutrino is created by the weak interaction it is always created in a state that is left-handed as measured by *chirality*. For a neutrino that is not exactly massless, this means that there is a small amplitude (proportional to it's mass divided by its energy), and hence a small probability, that it actually was created in a state that is right-handed as measured by *helicity*. If you run along in the direction of the neutrino you will see a greater probability for it to be in the "wrong helicity" state, which agrees with what I wrote above because you see it with less energy in your reference frame, so the mass divided by the energy (which gives the "wrong helicity" amplitude, hence probability) is larger. I hope that this helps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-&#8221;Interesting. One of the thoughts Iâ€™ve (and others) had about neutrinos:<br />
-if they really arenâ€™t going at the speed of light, but even a bit less, then<br />
-their spin canâ€™t be inherently left-handed. Why not? Because, a sufficiently -fast-moving observer could be moving past them, and would see a<br />
-neutrinoâ€™s spin going the wrong way relative to its velocity. Their spins<br />
-would be an artifact of the creation process. Any thoughts on this?<br />
-Neil B.  on Apr 12th, 2007 at 8:55 pm&#8221;</p>
<p>You are completely correct, and this effect is included in the theory of neutrino masses as appears in standard texts. The projection of the neutrino spin along its direction of motion is it&#8217;s &#8220;helicity&#8221;. There is another measure of the &#8220;handedness&#8221; of a relativistic spin one half-particle  called &#8220;chirality&#8221; that is easily defined in terms of the matrices appearing in the Dirac equation, and this measure does NOT depend on the reference frame in which you observe the particle. For massless particles these measures of &#8220;handedness&#8221; agree, but for massive particles they can disagree for exactly the reason you describe, ie. by moving past the particle you can reverse it&#8217;s direction of motion, hence it&#8217;s apparent helicity. When a neutrino is created by the weak interaction it is always created in a state that is left-handed as measured by *chirality*. For a neutrino that is not exactly massless, this means that there is a small amplitude (proportional to it&#8217;s mass divided by its energy), and hence a small probability, that it actually was created in a state that is right-handed as measured by *helicity*. If you run along in the direction of the neutrino you will see a greater probability for it to be in the &#8220;wrong helicity&#8221; state, which agrees with what I wrote above because you see it with less energy in your reference frame, so the mass divided by the energy (which gives the &#8220;wrong helicity&#8221; amplitude, hence probability) is larger. I hope that this helps!</p>
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		<title>By: Neil B.</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2007/04/11/miniboone-neutrino-result-guest-blog-from-heather-ray/#comment-245771</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 01:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting.  One of the thoughts I've (and others) had about neutrinos: if they really aren't going at the speed of light, but even a bit less, then their spin can't be &lt;i&gt;inherently&lt;/i&gt; left-handed.  Why not? Because, a sufficiently fast-moving observer could be moving past them, and would see a neutrino's spin going the wrong way relative to its velocity.  Their spins would be an artifact of the creation process.  Any thoughts on this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  One of the thoughts I&#8217;ve (and others) had about neutrinos: if they really aren&#8217;t going at the speed of light, but even a bit less, then their spin can&#8217;t be <i>inherently</i> left-handed.  Why not? Because, a sufficiently fast-moving observer could be moving past them, and would see a neutrino&#8217;s spin going the wrong way relative to its velocity.  Their spins would be an artifact of the creation process.  Any thoughts on this?</p>
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		<title>By: Arun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 23:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! 

Will someone be kind, though, and mark on the very first chart with the green blur and the blue and red spots, what part of parameter space MiniBooNE allows? Or is that left as a homework exercise?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! </p>
<p>Will someone be kind, though, and mark on the very first chart with the green blur and the blue and red spots, what part of parameter space MiniBooNE allows? Or is that left as a homework exercise?</p>
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