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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/08/07/the-science-of-coffee/#comment-141440</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Esspresso is an artificial way to prepare coffee.</description>
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		<title>By: James Hoffmann</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/08/07/the-science-of-coffee/#comment-116266</link>
		<dc:creator>James Hoffmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 19:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roasters don't use water baths, instead some use a quenching mist of water sprayed over the beans as they spill from the roaster to try and arrest the chemistry within the bean driven by heat.  Many roasters who rank quality above ease and speed prefer to use air to cool the coffee because it doesn't shorten the shelf life the way that water does.

Illy's article is an interesting, and the research they have done is excellent.  I do, however, dislike the way that the crema of an espresso is treated in a romantic and mystical way.  It is merely a foam of the coffee beneath, caused by bubbles of CO2 being trapped by a compound called a melanoidin that acts as a surfactant.  The reason that it fades quickly is down to drainage.

The most common reason that most people don't get a crema on their espresso at home is that they are using an incorrect grind of coffee.  The grind of the coffee is the most important thing in espresso as it determines the resistance to the machine's pump which in turn affects the brew time/contact time of the coffee.  The finer the grind, the slower the brew, the more flavour we extract.  Most, if not all, preground coffee bought in a supermarket or store is too coarse, no matter what the label tells you.  The correct grind should allow 2oz of liquid through a bed of 14-18g of coffee in around 25 seconds (quite slow).
The other reason is that coffee stales very quickly once ground and not only are aromatics lost but much of the CO2, so necessary for crema, is freed in the process of grinding.

Espresso is a wonderful thing.</description>
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<p>Illy&#8217;s article is an interesting, and the research they have done is excellent.  I do, however, dislike the way that the crema of an espresso is treated in a romantic and mystical way.  It is merely a foam of the coffee beneath, caused by bubbles of CO2 being trapped by a compound called a melanoidin that acts as a surfactant.  The reason that it fades quickly is down to drainage.</p>
<p>The most common reason that most people don&#8217;t get a crema on their espresso at home is that they are using an incorrect grind of coffee.  The grind of the coffee is the most important thing in espresso as it determines the resistance to the machine&#8217;s pump which in turn affects the brew time/contact time of the coffee.  The finer the grind, the slower the brew, the more flavour we extract.  Most, if not all, preground coffee bought in a supermarket or store is too coarse, no matter what the label tells you.  The correct grind should allow 2oz of liquid through a bed of 14-18g of coffee in around 25 seconds (quite slow).<br />
The other reason is that coffee stales very quickly once ground and not only are aromatics lost but much of the CO2, so necessary for crema, is freed in the process of grinding.</p>
<p>Espresso is a wonderful thing.</p>
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		<title>By: glenn</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/08/07/the-science-of-coffee/#comment-113519</link>
		<dc:creator>glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My best coffee ever was a freshly roasted coffee bean and grounded by a wooden mortar and pestle and just plain boiled in a very hot tin cup over a fire produced by wooden logs.  No modern technology just plain third world methods. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My best coffee ever was a freshly roasted coffee bean and grounded by a wooden mortar and pestle and just plain boiled in a very hot tin cup over a fire produced by wooden logs.  No modern technology just plain third world methods. <img src='http://cosmicvariance.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: coturnix</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/08/07/the-science-of-coffee/#comment-113498</link>
		<dc:creator>coturnix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 02:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Esspresso - it's so artificial and machine-made.  I fix my own Turkish coffee at home.  Will anyone do chemical analysis of that?</description>
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		<title>By: Nonoscience / The Scian Melt - Edition Twenty</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/08/07/the-science-of-coffee/#comment-113460</link>
		<dc:creator>Nonoscience / The Scian Melt - Edition Twenty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Betablokker &#187; A few links</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/08/07/the-science-of-coffee/#comment-113370</link>
		<dc:creator>Betablokker &#187; A few links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 22:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wim L</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/08/07/the-science-of-coffee/#comment-113193</link>
		<dc:creator>Wim L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 01:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting how different drugs are temporarily gven the status of social or industrial necessity and are eventually supplanted by other drugs. Lately it's coffee. Tobacco has also played that role, as has alcohol (in many forms: beer, wine, distilled liquor), and opium, and tea, and arguably cocaine, and probably others I'm not thinking of right now. At least coffee is not as harmful to our health as some of the others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting how different drugs are temporarily gven the status of social or industrial necessity and are eventually supplanted by other drugs. Lately it&#8217;s coffee. Tobacco has also played that role, as has alcohol (in many forms: beer, wine, distilled liquor), and opium, and tea, and arguably cocaine, and probably others I&#8217;m not thinking of right now. At least coffee is not as harmful to our health as some of the others.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/08/07/the-science-of-coffee/#comment-112094</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 15:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brazil produces almost a third of all the coffee in the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics_of_coffee

Certainly, the best grains do not stay here. In any case, Brazilians who do not drink coffee (our "cafezinho", as we call it) are somewhat rare indeed. It is also relatively common for young Brazilians to drink coffee with milk in their breakfasts. At work, there is always the so-called "cafezinho"Â´s time. A time to drink coffee and for informal talks and gossips of course.

I myself didnÂ´t like coffee too much. Today, I simply canÂ´t drink at least about 3 or more cafezinhos every day. I agree it is an aquired taste. ItÂ´s funny, because I generally do like more its smell than its taste. On the other hand, I love cappuccino.

Best wishes
Christine (from Brazil)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brazil produces almost a third of all the coffee in the world.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics_of_coffee" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics_of_coffee</a></p>
<p>Certainly, the best grains do not stay here. In any case, Brazilians who do not drink coffee (our &#8220;cafezinho&#8221;, as we call it) are somewhat rare indeed. It is also relatively common for young Brazilians to drink coffee with milk in their breakfasts. At work, there is always the so-called &#8220;cafezinho&#8221;Â´s time. A time to drink coffee and for informal talks and gossips of course.</p>
<p>I myself didnÂ´t like coffee too much. Today, I simply canÂ´t drink at least about 3 or more cafezinhos every day. I agree it is an aquired taste. ItÂ´s funny, because I generally do like more its smell than its taste. On the other hand, I love cappuccino.</p>
<p>Best wishes<br />
Christine (from Brazil)</p>
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		<title>By: David Harmon</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/08/07/the-science-of-coffee/#comment-111982</link>
		<dc:creator>David Harmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 00:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I usually put espresso-ground coffee in a drip maker, and toss a few spices in.  (Any combination of cinnamon, cloves, cardamom, anise, etc).  Does that make me an irredeemable heretic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually put espresso-ground coffee in a drip maker, and toss a few spices in.  (Any combination of cinnamon, cloves, cardamom, anise, etc).  Does that make me an irredeemable heretic?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Uitti</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/08/07/the-science-of-coffee/#comment-111946</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Uitti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 21:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While coffee is indeed complex, it is an aquired taste.  I went far enough to be barely able to tolerate coffee, but not far enough to enjoy it.  My caffeine intake was mostly Coke and Mt. Dew.  You get the caffeine rush.  You tell yourself it keeps you awake and alert at meetings.  After all, it really does keep you awake when you really want to sleep, and otherwise disrupts your sleep schedule.  Caffeine interferes with the body's uptake of calcium, and is implicated in arthritis and osteoperosis.  It's highly addictive, so years after going cold turkey, i smell coffee and want it.  I have some control over getting it, but no control over wanting it.  Only the memories of severe arthritic pain allows me any leeway. Maybe having choice was always an illusiion, but i want it back, and know it won't happen.  At least the arthritis is better now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While coffee is indeed complex, it is an aquired taste.  I went far enough to be barely able to tolerate coffee, but not far enough to enjoy it.  My caffeine intake was mostly Coke and Mt. Dew.  You get the caffeine rush.  You tell yourself it keeps you awake and alert at meetings.  After all, it really does keep you awake when you really want to sleep, and otherwise disrupts your sleep schedule.  Caffeine interferes with the body&#8217;s uptake of calcium, and is implicated in arthritis and osteoperosis.  It&#8217;s highly addictive, so years after going cold turkey, i smell coffee and want it.  I have some control over getting it, but no control over wanting it.  Only the memories of severe arthritic pain allows me any leeway. Maybe having choice was always an illusiion, but i want it back, and know it won&#8217;t happen.  At least the arthritis is better now.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/08/07/the-science-of-coffee/#comment-111915</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 18:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerry, the only links I found in the first couple of google pages searching for your suggestion were "alternative" medicine sites. Are there any actual medical links that you can point me to? Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry, the only links I found in the first couple of google pages searching for your suggestion were &#8220;alternative&#8221; medicine sites. Are there any actual medical links that you can point me to? Cheers,</p>
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		<title>By: beajerry</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/08/07/the-science-of-coffee/#comment-111914</link>
		<dc:creator>beajerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 18:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best Posting On Coffee, Ever!</description>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/08/07/the-science-of-coffee/#comment-111898</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 16:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ref:  http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/08/07/the-science-of-coffee

You should search the Internet on coffee draining the adrenals, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ref:  <a href="http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/08/07/the-science-of-coffee" rel="nofollow">http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/08/07/the-science-of-coffee</a></p>
<p>You should search the Internet on coffee draining the adrenals, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: citrine</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/08/07/the-science-of-coffee/#comment-111897</link>
		<dc:creator>citrine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 16:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thm,

Wow! That's interesting info. I hadn't heard of Grier or his comment when I wrote mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thm,</p>
<p>Wow! That&#8217;s interesting info. I hadn&#8217;t heard of Grier or his comment when I wrote mine.</p>
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		<title>By: thm</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/08/07/the-science-of-coffee/#comment-111896</link>
		<dc:creator>thm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 15:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much like citrine, I included in my dissertation acknowledgements:

"I would like to thank the coffee farmers of the world, without whose harvest none of this would have been possible."

I borrowed this line, more or less, from David Grier (now at NYU) who used it in a talk I saw once.

One of the other Illys, Andrea, has written an extensive book about the chemistry of espresso. Unfortunately it's priced like a science book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much like citrine, I included in my dissertation acknowledgements:</p>
<p>&#8220;I would like to thank the coffee farmers of the world, without whose harvest none of this would have been possible.&#8221;</p>
<p>I borrowed this line, more or less, from David Grier (now at NYU) who used it in a talk I saw once.</p>
<p>One of the other Illys, Andrea, has written an extensive book about the chemistry of espresso. Unfortunately it&#8217;s priced like a science book.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/08/07/the-science-of-coffee/#comment-111894</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 15:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought he was great as Billy Shears in the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sgt._Pepper%27s_Lonely_Hearts_Club_Band_%28movie%29" rel="nofollow"&gt;Sgt. Pepper movie&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought he was great as Billy Shears in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sgt._Pepper%27s_Lonely_Hearts_Club_Band_%28movie%29" rel="nofollow">Sgt. Pepper movie</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/08/07/the-science-of-coffee/#comment-111893</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 15:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No thera, it is not that Paul Frampton - I know this one.</description>
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		<title>By: thera</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/08/07/the-science-of-coffee/#comment-111892</link>
		<dc:creator>thera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 15:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice spiel there from Paul Frampton.  That wouldn't be the &lt;a&gt;Paul Frampton&lt;/a&gt; who is 'Head of Digital' at 'web search marketing' agency &lt;a href="http://www.mediacontacts.com.br/mcspeaks/mcspeaks_july.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;media contacts&lt;/a&gt;, would it?

Surely &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestle#Criticisms_of_Nestl.C3.A9.27s_business_practices" rel="nofollow"&gt;NestlÃ©&lt;/a&gt; wouldn't stoop so &lt;a href="http://www.ibfan.org/english/pdfs/btr04/btr04nestle.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;low&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice spiel there from Paul Frampton.  That wouldn&#8217;t be the <a>Paul Frampton</a> who is &#8216;Head of Digital&#8217; at &#8216;web search marketing&#8217; agency <a href="http://www.mediacontacts.com.br/mcspeaks/mcspeaks_july.pdf" rel="nofollow">media contacts</a>, would it?</p>
<p>Surely <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestle#Criticisms_of_Nestl.C3.A9.27s_business_practices" rel="nofollow">NestlÃ©</a> wouldn&#8217;t stoop so <a href="http://www.ibfan.org/english/pdfs/btr04/btr04nestle.pdf" rel="nofollow">low</a>?</p>
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		<title>By: Nomadic - Technomadic, to be more precise &#187; The Science of Coffee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nomadic - Technomadic, to be more precise &#187; The Science of Coffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 04:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: spyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>spyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 22:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back in some of my formative early adult years i hung out with a family of italians who happened to be in the espresso-machine importing business, and a few other enterprises (and yes they were from Palermo, what of it?).  I had never really liked coffee, nor had i drunk much espresso; and that was in the days before we had so many boutique and gourmet coffee roasters in the world (long before Starbucks).  These people drank espresso all the time, particularly after meals, and without the mess of sugars and cremes (usually some figs and citrus fruits).  I learned that espresso was all about flavor, not about caffeine or using coffee to sustain energy and effort.  It was ritual and taste; it is all about the flavor.  I have been an addict ever since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in some of my formative early adult years i hung out with a family of italians who happened to be in the espresso-machine importing business, and a few other enterprises (and yes they were from Palermo, what of it?).  I had never really liked coffee, nor had i drunk much espresso; and that was in the days before we had so many boutique and gourmet coffee roasters in the world (long before Starbucks).  These people drank espresso all the time, particularly after meals, and without the mess of sugars and cremes (usually some figs and citrus fruits).  I learned that espresso was all about flavor, not about caffeine or using coffee to sustain energy and effort.  It was ritual and taste; it is all about the flavor.  I have been an addict ever since.</p>
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