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		<title>By: rillian</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/07/31/a-nonperturbative-analogy/#comment-110651</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok. Thanks again for answering my questions. It's great to have a clear explanations of these things!</description>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I'd agree with al that rillian. As for the particle-like name, it's an unstable field configuration that one can think of as decaying away - that's about as well as I can do. There are much stranger things named like particles!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I&#8217;d agree with al that rillian. As for the particle-like name, it&#8217;s an unstable field configuration that one can think of as decaying away - that&#8217;s about as well as I can do. There are much stranger things named like particles!</p>
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		<title>By: rillian</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/07/31/a-nonperturbative-analogy/#comment-110638</link>
		<dc:creator>rillian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 18:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, thanks for the additional explanation. Physics-y is Good. :-)

So the single negative eigenvalue refers to the spectrum of the "matrix" of partial second derivatives (Hessian) of the potential? Extended to whatever infinity of dimensions the system has in this case? 

Then having a single negative eigenvalue is just the mathematical handle on your statement that there's only one path along which sphaleron is unstable. It is, to switch analogies, the "mountain pass" through which the system will tunnel between vacua?

If it's just a saddle point in the potential, why is it named like a particle?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, thanks for the additional explanation. Physics-y is Good. <img src='http://cosmicvariance.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So the single negative eigenvalue refers to the spectrum of the &#8220;matrix&#8221; of partial second derivatives (Hessian) of the potential? Extended to whatever infinity of dimensions the system has in this case? </p>
<p>Then having a single negative eigenvalue is just the mathematical handle on your statement that there&#8217;s only one path along which sphaleron is unstable. It is, to switch analogies, the &#8220;mountain pass&#8221; through which the system will tunnel between vacua?</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s just a saddle point in the potential, why is it named like a particle?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/07/31/a-nonperturbative-analogy/#comment-110268</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi rillian. There are a lot of ways to explain this, but let me try to take a more physics-y one. The sphaleron is a particular configuration of gauge and Higgs fields. I refer to it as a saddle point solution with a single negative eigenvalue. What does this mean?

Well, suppose you have some system and you'd like to know whether it is locally stable. To figure this out, you could imagine giving the system little pushes in every conceivable direction. If it always comes back, then it is stable (think of a ball at the bottom of a bowl), If it evolves away from the starting configuration in every direction that you push it, then it is completely unstable (think of a ball on top of a hill). However, if, when you do your pushing, the system evolves back to the original in every direction but a single one, in which it evolves away, then we say that there is a single negative eigenvalue - there is a single direction in which the system in unstable. (The word &lt;em&gt;eigenvalue&lt;/em&gt; just refers to the mathematical quantity that one solves for to find out which directions behave in which way.)

In the standard model, the system has infinitely many degrees of freedom, and so there are infinitely many ways one can disturb the sphaleron. Nevertheless, only one of them leads to an instability.

In my pendulum example, which is 1-dimensional, the relevant configuration is just completely unstable (the pendulum standing straight up), because there's only one eigenvalue in 1-d. For an analogy with the sphaleron, let's go back to a 2-D example - the ball. Think of two valleys, separated by a smooth ridge of varying height. At a random point on the ridge, if you move the ball in a direction away from the ridge you'll fall off into a valley (unstable), and if you move a little along the ridge, you'll also continue to roll, because the ridge itself is sloped. However, there will be a point that is the lowest point on the ridge. Here, if you move along the ridge a little, you'll fall back to the lowest point (stable in that direction ), and if you move off the ridge you'll fall away, towards a valley (unstable in that direction). That lowest point on the ridge is the saddle point, and an analogy for the sphaleron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi rillian. There are a lot of ways to explain this, but let me try to take a more physics-y one. The sphaleron is a particular configuration of gauge and Higgs fields. I refer to it as a saddle point solution with a single negative eigenvalue. What does this mean?</p>
<p>Well, suppose you have some system and you&#8217;d like to know whether it is locally stable. To figure this out, you could imagine giving the system little pushes in every conceivable direction. If it always comes back, then it is stable (think of a ball at the bottom of a bowl), If it evolves away from the starting configuration in every direction that you push it, then it is completely unstable (think of a ball on top of a hill). However, if, when you do your pushing, the system evolves back to the original in every direction but a single one, in which it evolves away, then we say that there is a single negative eigenvalue - there is a single direction in which the system in unstable. (The word <em>eigenvalue</em> just refers to the mathematical quantity that one solves for to find out which directions behave in which way.)</p>
<p>In the standard model, the system has infinitely many degrees of freedom, and so there are infinitely many ways one can disturb the sphaleron. Nevertheless, only one of them leads to an instability.</p>
<p>In my pendulum example, which is 1-dimensional, the relevant configuration is just completely unstable (the pendulum standing straight up), because there&#8217;s only one eigenvalue in 1-d. For an analogy with the sphaleron, let&#8217;s go back to a 2-D example - the ball. Think of two valleys, separated by a smooth ridge of varying height. At a random point on the ridge, if you move the ball in a direction away from the ridge you&#8217;ll fall off into a valley (unstable), and if you move a little along the ridge, you&#8217;ll also continue to roll, because the ridge itself is sloped. However, there will be a point that is the lowest point on the ridge. Here, if you move along the ridge a little, you&#8217;ll fall back to the lowest point (stable in that direction ), and if you move off the ridge you&#8217;ll fall away, towards a valley (unstable in that direction). That lowest point on the ridge is the saddle point, and an analogy for the sphaleron.</p>
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		<title>By: rillian</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/07/31/a-nonperturbative-analogy/#comment-110235</link>
		<dc:creator>rillian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 08:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, I liked the pendulum analogy. Very clear indeed, though I'm at the level of just understanding what a gauge field theory is. However, your more technical version in #2 lost me. Could you could expand on it a bit?

&lt;blockquote&gt;The lowest energy point on this ridge is a saddle point solution to the equations of motion with a single negative eigenvalue, and is referred to as the &lt;em&gt;sphaleron.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Eigenvalue of what? And what does it mean to have a single negative eigenvalue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, I liked the pendulum analogy. Very clear indeed, though I&#8217;m at the level of just understanding what a gauge field theory is. However, your more technical version in #2 lost me. Could you could expand on it a bit?</p>
<blockquote><p>The lowest energy point on this ridge is a saddle point solution to the equations of motion with a single negative eigenvalue, and is referred to as the <em>sphaleron.</em>
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<p>Eigenvalue of what? And what does it mean to have a single negative eigenvalue?</p>
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		<title>By: noname</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mark!

&lt;i&gt;The sphaleron refers to the actual saddle point configuration - the minimax solution - on the ridge.&lt;/i&gt;

You have cleared up something I wanted to know for a long time, but was afraid to ask!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mark!</p>
<p><i>The sphaleron refers to the actual saddle point configuration - the minimax solution - on the ridge.</i></p>
<p>You have cleared up something I wanted to know for a long time, but was afraid to ask!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/07/31/a-nonperturbative-analogy/#comment-109737</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 13:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi noname. The instanton is the solution in Euclidean time that describes the path that the field configuration takes between the two states. This helps one to calculate the zero-temperatue tunneling rate. The sphaleron refers to the actual saddle point configuration - the minimax solution - on the ridge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi noname. The instanton is the solution in Euclidean time that describes the path that the field configuration takes between the two states. This helps one to calculate the zero-temperatue tunneling rate. The sphaleron refers to the actual saddle point configuration - the minimax solution - on the ridge.</p>
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		<title>By: noname</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 13:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

Thanks for the explanation in the article AND in comment #2.

I had a follow-up question: 

What then is the difference between a sphaleron and an instanton(that are also obtained by extremizing the action and solving for the equation of motion with two different vacua as boundary conditions)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>Thanks for the explanation in the article AND in comment #2.</p>
<p>I had a follow-up question: </p>
<p>What then is the difference between a sphaleron and an instanton(that are also obtained by extremizing the action and solving for the equation of motion with two different vacua as boundary conditions)?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Valletta</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/07/31/a-nonperturbative-analogy/#comment-109706</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Valletta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 11:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote: But in the early Universe...

So if there is a imminent transition, say at "late universe times", then the information the temperature of ,say the very last radiative/heat product?..would be able to violate the barrier, in that the "heat_death" scenario of the late time Universe, has the effect of Thermal Entropy tends from COLD to Hot?

The fact remains close to the Big Bang, the transition of heat is from Hot to Cold,  but this cannot be the case for the Universe's 'Endgame' ?..it's surely the reverse Cold to Hot, for cyclic comminication of Heat Bath potentials? 

Obviously any "future" potential has MORE information available to transpose than a "past" sink ?

There is another analogy I have come across before, it involves Two Tennis players hitting a ball over a deviding net, each has the potential to "slam" the ball, but do not commit to this act due to the desire/compulsion of maintaining the Rally, for if either of them slams, it will be "break_point", and thus a new game is set in motion ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote: But in the early Universe&#8230;</p>
<p>So if there is a imminent transition, say at &#8220;late universe times&#8221;, then the information the temperature of ,say the very last radiative/heat product?..would be able to violate the barrier, in that the &#8220;heat_death&#8221; scenario of the late time Universe, has the effect of Thermal Entropy tends from COLD to Hot?</p>
<p>The fact remains close to the Big Bang, the transition of heat is from Hot to Cold,  but this cannot be the case for the Universe&#8217;s &#8216;Endgame&#8217; ?..it&#8217;s surely the reverse Cold to Hot, for cyclic comminication of Heat Bath potentials? </p>
<p>Obviously any &#8220;future&#8221; potential has MORE information available to transpose than a &#8220;past&#8221; sink ?</p>
<p>There is another analogy I have come across before, it involves Two Tennis players hitting a ball over a deviding net, each has the potential to &#8220;slam&#8221; the ball, but do not commit to this act due to the desire/compulsion of maintaining the Rally, for if either of them slams, it will be &#8220;break_point&#8221;, and thus a new game is set in motion <img src='http://cosmicvariance.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Valletta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Valletta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 11:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Quasar9</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 11:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baryogenesis, Baryongenesis</description>
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		<title>By: Plato</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 11:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a layman I have a hard time understanding all this stuff:)

"Anomolous behavior" of superfluid state according to QGP understanding, would sort of run contrary to any "uncertainty" at high energy considerations? 

It is very counter intuitive to have such things at such high energies acting in any tunnelling mode such as this QGP state? Lagrangian views take over? Equillibrium states, how so?

I'm confused.


&lt;a href="http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/quantum/hosc2.html#c1" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The quantum harmonic oscillator is one of the foundation problems of quantum mechanics. It can be applied rather directly to the explanation of the vibration spectra of diatomic molecules, but has implications far beyond such simple systems. It is the foundation for the understanding of complex modes of vibration in larger molecules, the motion of atoms in a solid lattice, the theory of heat capacity, etc. In real systems, energy spacings are equal only for the lowest levels where the potential is a good approximation of the "mass on a spring" type harmonic potential. The anharmonic terms which appear in the potential for a diatomic molecule are useful for mapping the detailed potential of such systems.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a layman I have a hard time understanding all this stuff:)</p>
<p>&#8220;Anomolous behavior&#8221; of superfluid state according to QGP understanding, would sort of run contrary to any &#8220;uncertainty&#8221; at high energy considerations? </p>
<p>It is very counter intuitive to have such things at such high energies acting in any tunnelling mode such as this QGP state? Lagrangian views take over? Equillibrium states, how so?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m confused.</p>
<p><a href="http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/quantum/hosc2.html#c1" rel="nofollow"><br />
<blockquote>The quantum harmonic oscillator is one of the foundation problems of quantum mechanics. It can be applied rather directly to the explanation of the vibration spectra of diatomic molecules, but has implications far beyond such simple systems. It is the foundation for the understanding of complex modes of vibration in larger molecules, the motion of atoms in a solid lattice, the theory of heat capacity, etc. In real systems, energy spacings are equal only for the lowest levels where the potential is a good approximation of the &#8220;mass on a spring&#8221; type harmonic potential. The anharmonic terms which appear in the potential for a diatomic molecule are useful for mapping the detailed potential of such systems.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: sphaleron</title>
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		<description>I prefer to write the key equation, tell that to understand it one needs a dedicated study of anomalies and extended field configurations (sorry, looking at a pendulum is not enough), stating what it means, explaining why a practical man can proceed even without understanding it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer to write the key equation, tell that to understand it one needs a dedicated study of anomalies and extended field configurations (sorry, looking at a pendulum is not enough), stating what it means, explaining why a practical man can proceed even without understanding it.</p>
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		<title>By: PK</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 09:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice analogy!</description>
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		<title>By: Tony Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Smith</dc:creator>
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		<description>Mark said "... baryogenesis ... may have occurred, through nonperturbative finite temperature dynamics in small extensions of the standard model of particle physics ..."
and in a previous orangequark blog entry
"... CP-violation ... appears to be much too small to account for the observed BAU and so it is usual to turn to extensions of the minimal theory. In particular the minimal supersymmetric standard model (MSSM). ...".

Could the minimal (non-supersymmetric) standard model be used for baryogenesis as suggested  in hep-ph/0008142 in which Ayala and Pallares say:
"... in the presence of strong, large scale primordial hypermagnetic fields, it is possible to generate a large amount of CP violation that combined with a stronger first order EWPT â€“also produced by the hypermagnetic fieldsâ€“ could account for the observed baryon number to entropy ratio within the SM.
The fact that fermions couple chirally to background hypermagnetic fields in the symmetric phase makes it possible to build a CP violating asymmetry by considering two fermion interfering processes in an equivalent way to the Bohm-Aharanov effect. 
This asymmetry is converted into baryon number by sphaleron induced processes in the symmetric phase and preserved when these fermions are recaught by the expanding bubble wall. ...
... the background field strength ...[is]... compatible with a Higgs mass of order 100 GeV and a phase transition analog to a type I superconductor ..."
?

If standard model mechanisms such as that suggested by Ayala and Pallares do not work, 
then
even if the LHC were to see only standard model Higgs type stuff, 
would the fact that we are made up of particles (no antiparticles) be the first clear sign that the standard model needs to be modified ? 

Tony Smith
http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark said &#8220;&#8230; baryogenesis &#8230; may have occurred, through nonperturbative finite temperature dynamics in small extensions of the standard model of particle physics &#8230;&#8221;<br />
and in a previous orangequark blog entry<br />
&#8220;&#8230; CP-violation &#8230; appears to be much too small to account for the observed BAU and so it is usual to turn to extensions of the minimal theory. In particular the minimal supersymmetric standard model (MSSM). &#8230;&#8221;.</p>
<p>Could the minimal (non-supersymmetric) standard model be used for baryogenesis as suggested  in hep-ph/0008142 in which Ayala and Pallares say:<br />
&#8220;&#8230; in the presence of strong, large scale primordial hypermagnetic fields, it is possible to generate a large amount of CP violation that combined with a stronger first order EWPT â€“also produced by the hypermagnetic fieldsâ€“ could account for the observed baryon number to entropy ratio within the SM.<br />
The fact that fermions couple chirally to background hypermagnetic fields in the symmetric phase makes it possible to build a CP violating asymmetry by considering two fermion interfering processes in an equivalent way to the Bohm-Aharanov effect.<br />
This asymmetry is converted into baryon number by sphaleron induced processes in the symmetric phase and preserved when these fermions are recaught by the expanding bubble wall. &#8230;<br />
&#8230; the background field strength &#8230;[is]&#8230; compatible with a Higgs mass of order 100 GeV and a phase transition analog to a type I superconductor &#8230;&#8221;<br />
?</p>
<p>If standard model mechanisms such as that suggested by Ayala and Pallares do not work,<br />
then<br />
even if the LHC were to see only standard model Higgs type stuff,<br />
would the fact that we are made up of particles (no antiparticles) be the first clear sign that the standard model needs to be modified ? </p>
<p>Tony Smith<br />
<a href="http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/" rel="nofollow">http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 02:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it helps any more, a more precise attempt at a definition would be:

In the infinite dimensional gauge and Higgs field configuration space, adjacent vacua of the electroweak theory are separated by a ridge of configurations with energies larger than that of the vacuum. The lowest energy point on this ridge is a saddle point solution to the equations of motion with a single negative eigenvalue, and is referred to as the &lt;em&gt;sphaleron&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it helps any more, a more precise attempt at a definition would be:</p>
<p>In the infinite dimensional gauge and Higgs field configuration space, adjacent vacua of the electroweak theory are separated by a ridge of configurations with energies larger than that of the vacuum. The lowest energy point on this ridge is a saddle point solution to the equations of motion with a single negative eigenvalue, and is referred to as the <em>sphaleron</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<description>That has to be the only attempt I've ever seen for someone to actually explain what a sphaleron is.  Most phenomenologists of my acquaintance just shrug their shoulders ...</description>
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