Comments on: Argument from banana http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/05/02/argument-from-banana/ Random samplings from a universe of ideas. Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:00:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: DarWins http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/05/02/argument-from-banana/#comment-15430 DarWins Fri, 09 Jun 2006 01:20:10 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/05/02/argument-from-banana/#comment-15430 I beleive in a creator, it's the Unicorn, Or is it HobGoblins?, or is it the Werewolf. You can't PROVE that Werewolf dosent exists. You can only say that you DONT KNOW if he exists or not. Well, I have a book that said Werewolf DOES exists, and he died from a sliver bullet for ME! And I can feel the Werewolf in my heart, I let him in my life and I pray to him daily. I dont want to live in a world without Werewolf. Infact - I have an EQUAL amount of proof for his existence as Christians do for Jesus. ACCEPT Unicorn..er I mean Zeus..Ooops.. I mean Werewolf, he is the true savior!!!! I beleive in a creator, it’s the Unicorn, Or is it HobGoblins?, or is it the Werewolf.

You can’t PROVE that Werewolf dosent exists. You can only say that you DONT KNOW if he exists or not.

Well, I have a book that said Werewolf DOES exists, and he died from a sliver bullet for ME!

And I can feel the Werewolf in my heart, I let him in my life and I pray to him daily. I dont want to live in a world without Werewolf.

Infact - I have an EQUAL amount of proof for his existence as Christians do for Jesus.

ACCEPT Unicorn..er I mean Zeus..Ooops.. I mean Werewolf, he is the true savior!!!!

]]> By: Positive Liberty » Blog Archive » Science and Religion http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/05/02/argument-from-banana/#comment-15431 Positive Liberty » Blog Archive » Science and Religion Mon, 15 May 2006 23:29:41 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/05/02/argument-from-banana/#comment-15431 [...] The whole of living creation worked together so well that it called out for an explanation, and religion delivered: God created this order, said religious thinkers. Notably, Islam still favors this argument today, as does Christian creationism. God’s role as the creator of biological diversity was thus an empirical claim like any other. [...] […] The whole of living creation worked together so well that it called out for an explanation, and religion delivered: God created this order, said religious thinkers. Notably, Islam still favors this argument today, as does Christian creationism. God’s role as the creator of biological diversity was thus an empirical claim like any other. […]

]]> By: veganerd http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/05/02/argument-from-banana/#comment-15480 veganerd Thu, 11 May 2006 19:37:10 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/05/02/argument-from-banana/#comment-15480 i am rather fond of this banana argument. ive been using it for years to get girls to touch my penis. i am rather fond of this banana argument. ive been using it for years to get girls to touch my penis.

]]> By: Sam Gralla http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/05/02/argument-from-banana/#comment-15479 Sam Gralla Sun, 07 May 2006 05:10:52 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/05/02/argument-from-banana/#comment-15479 Well, that's how we know we have souls and they don't. They're just that dumb. I bet they drink coke by puncturing the side of the can with their anuses! Well, that’s how we know we have souls and they don’t. They’re just that dumb. I bet they drink coke by puncturing the side of the can with their anuses!

]]> By: Tim http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/05/02/argument-from-banana/#comment-15478 Tim Sun, 07 May 2006 02:53:38 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/05/02/argument-from-banana/#comment-15478 According to BoingBoing, monkeys and other primates open bananas from the other end, choosing to ignore the God-designed "pull-tab." http://www.boingboing.net/2006/01/21/peeling_bananas_from.html According to BoingBoing, monkeys and other primates open bananas from the other end, choosing to ignore the God-designed “pull-tab.”

http://www.boingboing.net/2006/01/21/peeling_bananas_from.html

]]> By: John http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/05/02/argument-from-banana/#comment-15477 John Sun, 07 May 2006 01:28:42 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/05/02/argument-from-banana/#comment-15477 Oh, and Im not sure, but Im willing to bet that that banana he was holding has been subject to its own fair share of genetic engineering of some sort. The prospects for irony compel me to search.... a quick search does not reveal much, but as a domesticated plant the arguement that God created the banana in its pure perfection as it is now is not true. Oh, and Im not sure, but Im willing to bet that that banana he was holding has been subject to its own fair share of genetic engineering of some sort. The prospects for irony compel me to search….

a quick search does not reveal much, but as a domesticated plant the arguement that God created the banana in its pure perfection as it is now is not true.

]]> By: John http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/05/02/argument-from-banana/#comment-15476 John Sun, 07 May 2006 01:17:53 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/05/02/argument-from-banana/#comment-15476 All silliness aside, this video did inspire me to figure out for myself exactly where this arguement falls apart, not that it takes a genius or even a moron to see through the B.S. The problem is in equating the world as a finished product of some creator (a building, a soda can, etc) instead of a process (Nature) that stretches infinately in both directions. Creationists don't see this as a problem because of course to them there was ta-dah! CREATION! Bam, there, its done, God's going to get some lunch and then take a dump. All silliness aside, this video did inspire me to figure out for myself exactly where this arguement falls apart, not that it takes a genius or even a moron to see through the B.S.

The problem is in equating the world as a finished product of some creator (a building, a soda can, etc) instead of a process (Nature) that stretches infinately in both directions. Creationists don’t see this as a problem because of course to them there was ta-dah! CREATION! Bam, there, its done, God’s going to get some lunch and then take a dump.

]]> By: Arun http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/05/02/argument-from-banana/#comment-15475 Arun Thu, 04 May 2006 20:11:41 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/05/02/argument-from-banana/#comment-15475 It is very hard to examine one's own consciousness/awareness in a scientific manner. Also I'm not sure whether expecting there to be a state called nirvana or moksha is any less a leap of faith than expecting there to be a God. It is very hard to examine one’s own consciousness/awareness in a scientific manner.

Also I’m not sure whether expecting there to be a state called nirvana or moksha is any less a leap of faith than expecting there to be a God.

]]> By: Hiranya http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/05/02/argument-from-banana/#comment-15474 Hiranya Thu, 04 May 2006 15:45:32 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/05/02/argument-from-banana/#comment-15474 Sam Gralla - thanks, that's interesting. So you think that theists adopt this world view out of emotional, subjective considerations (I am not saying this is an invalid choice - I have nothing against anyone's spiritual beliefs unless they try to force it down the throats of anyone not of the same belief system; but arguments like this are not something that's subject to logical, empirical analysis). This doesn't explain people like the banana guy though, who appear to find empirical "evidence" for their worldview by pseudoscientific claims about the physical world. i.e. there appears to be a need in these people to see empirical evidence for their beliefs in the physical world, but not a critical faculty to examine that evidence in the manner of the scientific method. I find this very hard to understand. Sam Gralla - thanks, that’s interesting. So you think that theists adopt this world view out of emotional, subjective considerations (I am not saying this is an invalid choice - I have nothing against anyone’s spiritual beliefs unless they try to force it down the throats of anyone not of the same belief system; but arguments like this are not something that’s subject to logical, empirical analysis). This doesn’t explain people like the banana guy though, who appear to find empirical “evidence” for their worldview by pseudoscientific claims about the physical world. i.e. there appears to be a need in these people to see empirical evidence for their beliefs in the physical world, but not a critical faculty to examine that evidence in the manner of the scientific method. I find this very hard to understand.

]]> By: Cynthia http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/05/02/argument-from-banana/#comment-15473 Cynthia Thu, 04 May 2006 15:31:22 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/05/02/argument-from-banana/#comment-15473 David Corfield - talk about hitting the proverbial nail on the head... thanks for bringing up this most insightful comment! David Corfield - talk about hitting the proverbial nail on the head… thanks for bringing up this most insightful comment!

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