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		<title>By: From Quantum to Cosmos-II &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/03/16/wmap-results-cosmology-makes-sense/#comment-100405</link>
		<dc:creator>From Quantum to Cosmos-II &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Since I&#8217;m focusing on cosmology in this post, I&#8217;ll skip past great talks by Alan Kostelecky and Tom Weiler and jump right to the Monday evening session in which David Spergel gave a tight and crystal clear review of the WMAP3 results, and then Sean spoke on Cosmological Constraints on Modified Gravity. I will be deliberately sketchy about Sean&#8217;s talk because most of it described work which will appear in a couple of papers, one of which we are writing together with our graduate students, within the next week. But a broader part of the talk concerned how one might differentiate between dark energy and modified gravity as explanations for cosmic acceleration. Sean discussed how, in modified gravity, Newtonian potentials can grow differently than in General Relativity (GR) (even sometimes at different rates on different scales), and how this might be used not only to distinguish it from dark energy, but to distinguish between different suggestions for modifying gravity. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Since I&#8217;m focusing on cosmology in this post, I&#8217;ll skip past great talks by Alan Kostelecky and Tom Weiler and jump right to the Monday evening session in which David Spergel gave a tight and crystal clear review of the WMAP3 results, and then Sean spoke on Cosmological Constraints on Modified Gravity. I will be deliberately sketchy about Sean&#8217;s talk because most of it described work which will appear in a couple of papers, one of which we are writing together with our graduate students, within the next week. But a broader part of the talk concerned how one might differentiate between dark energy and modified gravity as explanations for cosmic acceleration. Sean discussed how, in modified gravity, Newtonian potentials can grow differently than in General Relativity (GR) (even sometimes at different rates on different scales), and how this might be used not only to distinguish it from dark energy, but to distinguish between different suggestions for modifying gravity. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cosmic Variance</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/03/16/wmap-results-cosmology-makes-sense/#comment-28153</link>
		<dc:creator>Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 04:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;From Quantum to Cosmos-II&lt;/strong&gt;

	As promised, I&#8217;m ready to provide a fuller report of the science at the meeting I was at last week - From Quantum to Cosmos: Fundamental Physics Research in Space, held by NASA at the Airlie Center in Warrenton, Virginia.
	I mentioned last time ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>From Quantum to Cosmos-II</strong></p>
<p>	As promised, I&#8217;m ready to provide a fuller report of the science at the meeting I was at last week - From Quantum to Cosmos: Fundamental Physics Research in Space, held by NASA at the Airlie Center in Warrenton, Virginia.<br />
	I mentioned last time &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Future of Theoretical Cosmology &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/03/16/wmap-results-cosmology-makes-sense/#comment-19549</link>
		<dc:creator>The Future of Theoretical Cosmology &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Origins Questions. Where did the universe come from, and why do we find it in this particular configuration? Inflation, which received an important boost from the recent WMAP results, is a crucial ingredient in our current picture, but I stressed that there is a lot that we don&#8217;t yet understand. In particular, we need to understand the pre-inflationary universe to know whether inflation really provides a robust theory of initial conditions. Thinking about inflation naturally leads us to the multiverse, and I argued that untestable predictions of a theory are perfectly legitimate science, so long as the theory makes other testable predictions. We don&#8217;t yet have a theory of quantum gravity that does that, and I prevaricated about whether one hundred years would be sufficient time to establish one. (Naive extrapolation predicts that we won&#8217;t be doing Planck-scale experiments until two hundred years from now.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Origins Questions. Where did the universe come from, and why do we find it in this particular configuration? Inflation, which received an important boost from the recent WMAP results, is a crucial ingredient in our current picture, but I stressed that there is a lot that we don&#8217;t yet understand. In particular, we need to understand the pre-inflationary universe to know whether inflation really provides a robust theory of initial conditions. Thinking about inflation naturally leads us to the multiverse, and I argued that untestable predictions of a theory are perfectly legitimate science, so long as the theory makes other testable predictions. We don&#8217;t yet have a theory of quantum gravity that does that, and I prevaricated about whether one hundred years would be sufficient time to establish one. (Naive extrapolation predicts that we won&#8217;t be doing Planck-scale experiments until two hundred years from now.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Everything I know about the universe I did not learn from newspaper headlines &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/03/16/wmap-results-cosmology-makes-sense/#comment-15975</link>
		<dc:creator>Everything I know about the universe I did not learn from newspaper headlines &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The new WMAP results have told us a lot about the universe. The basic findings are: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Spaceman</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/03/16/wmap-results-cosmology-makes-sense/#comment-15937</link>
		<dc:creator>Spaceman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 01:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Dumb biologist, I am also interested in the age-old question: is the universe finite or infinite? In my opinion, this is one of the most important questions ever asked. I know this question can only be answered definitively if the universe is smaller than the horizon. Unfortunately, I have a feeling that those in favor of the small universe idea will never accept any data which concludes that non-trivial topology, if it exists, must be on a super-horizon scale.

I have several questions related to the finite or infinite issue which I am hoping a cosmologist could help answer.

1). The low CMB quadrupole is in sharp contradiction with the  infinite universe prediction for the quadrupole. Wouldn't any infinite universe model which tries to accommodate this observation be considered an unnatural stretch? 

2). Luminet et al (2004) and Aurich et al (2005) and others have written highly critical papers regarding the topology conclusion reached by Spergel et al (2004). A lot of this criticism is two-pronged: they basically say that (i) the 1st year sky-maps have too much noise in them for Spergel et al to have reached the conclusion they did, and (ii), the methodology itself is in some way flawed. Who is correct? Do the WMAP 3-year sky-maps have a high enough signal-to-noise ratio for one to look for a topological signiture in them, or, will it take another satellite (i.e. the Planck Surveyor) to resolve this issue?  

3). Do Spergel et al have plans to write a paper to counter the recent criticisms that have been leveled against their "circles in the sky" analysis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Dumb biologist, I am also interested in the age-old question: is the universe finite or infinite? In my opinion, this is one of the most important questions ever asked. I know this question can only be answered definitively if the universe is smaller than the horizon. Unfortunately, I have a feeling that those in favor of the small universe idea will never accept any data which concludes that non-trivial topology, if it exists, must be on a super-horizon scale.</p>
<p>I have several questions related to the finite or infinite issue which I am hoping a cosmologist could help answer.</p>
<p>1). The low CMB quadrupole is in sharp contradiction with the  infinite universe prediction for the quadrupole. Wouldn&#8217;t any infinite universe model which tries to accommodate this observation be considered an unnatural stretch? </p>
<p>2). Luminet et al (2004) and Aurich et al (2005) and others have written highly critical papers regarding the topology conclusion reached by Spergel et al (2004). A lot of this criticism is two-pronged: they basically say that (i) the 1st year sky-maps have too much noise in them for Spergel et al to have reached the conclusion they did, and (ii), the methodology itself is in some way flawed. Who is correct? Do the WMAP 3-year sky-maps have a high enough signal-to-noise ratio for one to look for a topological signiture in them, or, will it take another satellite (i.e. the Planck Surveyor) to resolve this issue?  </p>
<p>3). Do Spergel et al have plans to write a paper to counter the recent criticisms that have been leveled against their &#8220;circles in the sky&#8221; analysis?</p>
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		<title>By: Spaceman</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/03/16/wmap-results-cosmology-makes-sense/#comment-15936</link>
		<dc:creator>Spaceman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I can tell based on critical reading skills and a trust of the WMAP team, the superbly accurate 3-year results are the product of an exhaustive and painstakingly detailed search for systematic errors and foreground contamination. A number of new techniques were employed to see if the data is of high enough quality to be used for a cosmological analysis. So, the combination of longer integration time and a more thorough analysis assures us the new results are giving us a solid picture/understanding of cosmic evolution. I certainly don't think cosmology is solved, as there are still mysteries and cosmophenomena that need to be explained, but at least we now have a rough outline of cosmic evolution. I have a feeling that the standard model of cosmology is basically correct even though it may take decades before we fill in all of the details. Think about it like this: we knew the size and shape of the earth before we knew what it was made out of and had it all mapped; similarly, we now almost surely know the size, expansion rate, and shape (i.e, flatness) of the universe even though we do not yet know what is the dark energy and the dark matter. Humanity has little to be proud of these days on Earth, as neo-liberalism allows billionaire tourists to fly into space while billions remain without the basics. Nevertheless, we should be proud of the fact that we've come as far as we have in recent years in terms of being able to read the "universe story" in the sky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I can tell based on critical reading skills and a trust of the WMAP team, the superbly accurate 3-year results are the product of an exhaustive and painstakingly detailed search for systematic errors and foreground contamination. A number of new techniques were employed to see if the data is of high enough quality to be used for a cosmological analysis. So, the combination of longer integration time and a more thorough analysis assures us the new results are giving us a solid picture/understanding of cosmic evolution. I certainly don&#8217;t think cosmology is solved, as there are still mysteries and cosmophenomena that need to be explained, but at least we now have a rough outline of cosmic evolution. I have a feeling that the standard model of cosmology is basically correct even though it may take decades before we fill in all of the details. Think about it like this: we knew the size and shape of the earth before we knew what it was made out of and had it all mapped; similarly, we now almost surely know the size, expansion rate, and shape (i.e, flatness) of the universe even though we do not yet know what is the dark energy and the dark matter. Humanity has little to be proud of these days on Earth, as neo-liberalism allows billionaire tourists to fly into space while billions remain without the basics. Nevertheless, we should be proud of the fact that we&#8217;ve come as far as we have in recent years in terms of being able to read the &#8220;universe story&#8221; in the sky.</p>
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		<title>By: Slacker Astronomy Show Notes &#187; WMAP&#8217;s Anistrophy Trophy (Show #47)</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/03/16/wmap-results-cosmology-makes-sense/#comment-15620</link>
		<dc:creator>Slacker Astronomy Show Notes &#187; WMAP&#8217;s Anistrophy Trophy (Show #47)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 03:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] WMAP results â€” cosmology makes sense!  via Cosmic Variance Blog [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] WMAP results â€” cosmology makes sense!  via Cosmic Variance Blog [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scott O</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/03/16/wmap-results-cosmology-makes-sense/#comment-15350</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments, David (#50).   I'm looking forward to seeing Mark Halpern's astro seminar tomorrow at UBC, in order to learn more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments, David (#50).   I&#8217;m looking forward to seeing Mark Halpern&#8217;s astro seminar tomorrow at UBC, in order to learn more.</p>
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		<title>By: Savya</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/03/16/wmap-results-cosmology-makes-sense/#comment-15346</link>
		<dc:creator>Savya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2006 20:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Hiranya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Hiranya.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/03/16/wmap-results-cosmology-makes-sense/#comment-15331</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's right -- only the 4% of the universe that is "ordinary matter" is described by the Standard Model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s right &#8212; only the 4% of the universe that is &#8220;ordinary matter&#8221; is described by the Standard Model.</p>
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		<title>By: Arun</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/03/16/wmap-results-cosmology-makes-sense/#comment-15323</link>
		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2006 14:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So does the Standard Model - electroweak, QCD - apply to only 4% of the stuff in the universe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So does the Standard Model - electroweak, QCD - apply to only 4% of the stuff in the universe?</p>
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		<title>By: Charm &#38;c. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; WMAP Three Year Results</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/03/16/wmap-results-cosmology-makes-sense/#comment-15306</link>
		<dc:creator>Charm &#38;c. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; WMAP Three Year Results</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2006 05:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So we had the privilege of having Cornell&#8217;s own Rachel Bean, of the WMAP science team, give a special physics colloquium an hour and a half after the release of the WMAP three year results on Thursday.Â  The results, with exquisite precision, agree with the boring old cold dark matter + dark energy model of the universe&#8217;s evolution, with a dark energy equation of state that still looks depressingly like a cosmological constant.Â  Sean Carroll discusses the results further.   Posted in Uncategorized &#124; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So we had the privilege of having Cornell&#8217;s own Rachel Bean, of the WMAP science team, give a special physics colloquium an hour and a half after the release of the WMAP three year results on Thursday.Â  The results, with exquisite precision, agree with the boring old cold dark matter + dark energy model of the universe&#8217;s evolution, with a dark energy equation of state that still looks depressingly like a cosmological constant.Â  Sean Carroll discusses the results further.   Posted in Uncategorized | [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hiranya</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/03/16/wmap-results-cosmology-makes-sense/#comment-15305</link>
		<dc:creator>Hiranya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2006 04:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#45: Cosmic variance goes as sqrt(2/(2l+1)) *  C_l^{theory}. This means that the CV error at l=200 is bigger than at l=100 because the C_200/C_100 ratio wins over the factor of ~2 increase in the number of measurable modes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#45: Cosmic variance goes as sqrt(2/(2l+1)) *  C_l^{theory}. This means that the CV error at l=200 is bigger than at l=100 because the C_200/C_100 ratio wins over the factor of ~2 increase in the number of measurable modes.</p>
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		<title>By: David Spergel</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/03/16/wmap-results-cosmology-makes-sense/#comment-15303</link>
		<dc:creator>David Spergel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2006 03:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to Scott's comments about the power spectrum and foreground removal (#35).

We do freeze the power spectrum before we do the model fits.  We basically
spent 2 years modifying the pipeline so that we could treat the noise properly
and pass various null tests and the self-consistency tests.  We didn't run
any serious cosmological models until about 3 months ago.

The foreground model for the temperature was indeed
fixed before the power spectrum was computed.  The new foreground
model has only 2 free parameters--- the big change was switching
from using the Haslam 408 MHz map to model the foreground
to using an internal combination of WMAP data (22 GHz-30 GHz).
When we were testing the foreground models, we used
the difference between 40 and 60 GHz power spectra as a test of the foreground model.  Since this difference contains no CMB signal,
this fitting scheme is unbiased

The shift in l =3 and l=5 is due to switching from using the
MASTER algorithm to using Maximum Likelihood.  George Efsthathiou
wrote a nice paper discussing this issue and we were convinced to
use ML analysis on the low l's.

The improvement in chisq'ed was due to several effects:

-  better beams-- these were fit to Jupiter and had no free parameters
to "tweak"

- using smaller pixels in the map making

- an improved foreground model


I should note that we also have done blind tests on model fitting.

When we started this project, I never expected the data to fit the model
(I still dislike the cosmological constant), but we have to present what we find.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Scott&#8217;s comments about the power spectrum and foreground removal (#35).</p>
<p>We do freeze the power spectrum before we do the model fits.  We basically<br />
spent 2 years modifying the pipeline so that we could treat the noise properly<br />
and pass various null tests and the self-consistency tests.  We didn&#8217;t run<br />
any serious cosmological models until about 3 months ago.</p>
<p>The foreground model for the temperature was indeed<br />
fixed before the power spectrum was computed.  The new foreground<br />
model has only 2 free parameters&#8212; the big change was switching<br />
from using the Haslam 408 MHz map to model the foreground<br />
to using an internal combination of WMAP data (22 GHz-30 GHz).<br />
When we were testing the foreground models, we used<br />
the difference between 40 and 60 GHz power spectra as a test of the foreground model.  Since this difference contains no CMB signal,<br />
this fitting scheme is unbiased</p>
<p>The shift in l =3 and l=5 is due to switching from using the<br />
MASTER algorithm to using Maximum Likelihood.  George Efsthathiou<br />
wrote a nice paper discussing this issue and we were convinced to<br />
use ML analysis on the low l&#8217;s.</p>
<p>The improvement in chisq&#8217;ed was due to several effects:</p>
<p>-  better beams&#8211; these were fit to Jupiter and had no free parameters<br />
to &#8220;tweak&#8221;</p>
<p>- using smaller pixels in the map making</p>
<p>- an improved foreground model</p>
<p>I should note that we also have done blind tests on model fitting.</p>
<p>When we started this project, I never expected the data to fit the model<br />
(I still dislike the cosmological constant), but we have to present what we find.</p>
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		<title>By: BK</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/03/16/wmap-results-cosmology-makes-sense/#comment-15291</link>
		<dc:creator>BK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2006 01:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I say something about general relativity, spacetime and geometry here?  (I left this same comment under "general relativity as a tool" as I attempt to make my way around so please bear with me, sorta new.)
     Has anyone noticed that general relativity does not jive with vortex dynamics, even though the sun and planets follow the laws of vortex dynamics? We all know that the planets are orbiting the sun in a counterclockwise fashion with the sun as a foci. Consider any two of the planets as Mass A and Mass B (just two to simplify this but any number of masses will do.) Vortex dynamics says that the two masses orbit around a foci because they are caught in each otherâ€™s flow fields, and the foci is the RESULT of them being in each otherâ€™s flow fields. If you were to take away the two rotating masses then the foci between them would also disappear and in fact, the foci would not exist in the first place without the two orbiting masses that create it.
     General relativity says the sun bends spacetime and gravity is the result, but according to the actual engineering law covering the motion of the sun and the planets, the PLANETS (masses A and B) create gravity because they are caught in each otherâ€™s flow fields and the foci between them, the sun, is the RESULT of this mutual attraction between the planets. And since vortex dynamics are LAW and general relativity is THEORY this should be taken as a serious flaw in how we view the solar system.
     James Vanyoâ€™s book ROTATING FLUIDS IN ENGINEERING AND SCIENCE has a great chapter on vortex dynamics.
BK (reached at a cool little ladyâ€™s email joanbayles@hotmail.com) 
    I could go on with how vortex dynamics correlates with superposition and entanglement but I'll wait to see if anyone's interested, lest I overstay my welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I say something about general relativity, spacetime and geometry here?  (I left this same comment under &#8220;general relativity as a tool&#8221; as I attempt to make my way around so please bear with me, sorta new.)<br />
     Has anyone noticed that general relativity does not jive with vortex dynamics, even though the sun and planets follow the laws of vortex dynamics? We all know that the planets are orbiting the sun in a counterclockwise fashion with the sun as a foci. Consider any two of the planets as Mass A and Mass B (just two to simplify this but any number of masses will do.) Vortex dynamics says that the two masses orbit around a foci because they are caught in each otherâ€™s flow fields, and the foci is the RESULT of them being in each otherâ€™s flow fields. If you were to take away the two rotating masses then the foci between them would also disappear and in fact, the foci would not exist in the first place without the two orbiting masses that create it.<br />
     General relativity says the sun bends spacetime and gravity is the result, but according to the actual engineering law covering the motion of the sun and the planets, the PLANETS (masses A and B) create gravity because they are caught in each otherâ€™s flow fields and the foci between them, the sun, is the RESULT of this mutual attraction between the planets. And since vortex dynamics are LAW and general relativity is THEORY this should be taken as a serious flaw in how we view the solar system.<br />
     James Vanyoâ€™s book ROTATING FLUIDS IN ENGINEERING AND SCIENCE has a great chapter on vortex dynamics.<br />
BK (reached at a cool little ladyâ€™s email <a href="mailto:joanbayles@hotmail.com">joanbayles@hotmail.com</a>)<br />
    I could go on with how vortex dynamics correlates with superposition and entanglement but I&#8217;ll wait to see if anyone&#8217;s interested, lest I overstay my welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Count Iblis</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/03/16/wmap-results-cosmology-makes-sense/#comment-15270</link>
		<dc:creator>Count Iblis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I meant Arun, not Plato :)</description>
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		<title>By: Count Iblis</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/03/16/wmap-results-cosmology-makes-sense/#comment-15269</link>
		<dc:creator>Count Iblis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plato, see here:

&lt;a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0203240" rel="nofollow"&gt;Constraining Strong Baryon-Dark Matter Interactions with Primordial Nucleosynthesis and Cosmic Rays&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Self-interacting dark matter (SIDM) was introduced by Spergel &#38; Steinhardt to address possible discrepancies between collisionless dark matter simulations and observations on scales of less than 1 Mpc. We examine the case in which dark matter particles not only have strong self-interactions but also have strong interactions with baryons. The presence of such interactions will have direct implications for nuclear and particle astrophysics. Among these are a change in the predicted abundances from big bang nucleosynthesis (BBN) and the flux of gamma-rays produced by the decay of neutral pions which originate in collisions between dark matter and Galactic cosmic rays (CR). From these effects we constrain the strength of the baryon--dark matter interactions through the ratio of baryon - dark matter interaction cross section to dark matter mass, $s$. We find that BBN places a weak upper limit to this ratio $</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plato, see here:</p>
<p><a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0203240" rel="nofollow">Constraining Strong Baryon-Dark Matter Interactions with Primordial Nucleosynthesis and Cosmic Rays</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Self-interacting dark matter (SIDM) was introduced by Spergel &amp; Steinhardt to address possible discrepancies between collisionless dark matter simulations and observations on scales of less than 1 Mpc. We examine the case in which dark matter particles not only have strong self-interactions but also have strong interactions with baryons. The presence of such interactions will have direct implications for nuclear and particle astrophysics. Among these are a change in the predicted abundances from big bang nucleosynthesis (BBN) and the flux of gamma-rays produced by the decay of neutral pions which originate in collisions between dark matter and Galactic cosmic rays (CR). From these effects we constrain the strength of the baryon&#8211;dark matter interactions through the ratio of baryon - dark matter interaction cross section to dark matter mass, $s$. We find that BBN places a weak upper limit to this ratio $</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Arun</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/03/16/wmap-results-cosmology-makes-sense/#comment-15268</link>
		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What kind of limits (if any) on baryon- dark matter interaction are required for big bang nucleosynthesis to come out right?</description>
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		<title>By: Savya</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/03/16/wmap-results-cosmology-makes-sense/#comment-15258</link>
		<dc:creator>Savya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks very much, Sean!

Hiranya - sorry to harp on #14 - as far as I know, cosmic variance ~ 1/sqrt(l(l+1)) - if this is true, then the width of the grey area should be less at l=200 than it is at l=100, but it actually seems to be thicker! Is this an artifact of the way the plots are made, or am I missing something? Again, sorry: I am a newbie!

Savya</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks very much, Sean!</p>
<p>Hiranya - sorry to harp on #14 - as far as I know, cosmic variance ~ 1/sqrt(l(l+1)) - if this is true, then the width of the grey area should be less at l=200 than it is at l=100, but it actually seems to be thicker! Is this an artifact of the way the plots are made, or am I missing something? Again, sorry: I am a newbie!</p>
<p>Savya</p>
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		<title>By: Dumb Biologist</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/03/16/wmap-results-cosmology-makes-sense/#comment-15255</link>
		<dc:creator>Dumb Biologist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whew!  I was starting to think I'd asked an offensive question or something!  Thanks for the response, Dr. Carroll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whew!  I was starting to think I&#8217;d asked an offensive question or something!  Thanks for the response, Dr. Carroll.</p>
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