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1. Elliot on Nov 11th, 2005 at 11:57 am

   Looking forward to the possibility of some semi-real time interactions. How interesting it would be if your posts from on-site generated feedback that then affected/directed what you and your peers are doing in the room. One of the key aspects of cybernetics/complex systems is their utilization of feedback in effective ways. I think these are the types of powerful opportunities that this medium will allow, that transcend what can be accomplished in print or any other 1-way medium. Sounds like a lot of fun.

   Elliot

2. Dissident on Nov 11th, 2005 at 12:26 pm

   Elliot: well, yes, but… I think there’s a tendence to repeatedly forget that one of the real strengths of much of the online world rests with it NOT being real time.

   Back in late 1999, close to the top of web mania, I remember economic commentators propounding how great it would be, Real Soon Now, for consumers to be able to interact in real time with an online sales force, rather than having to submit their orders through some boring form. My own thought was: yeah right, that would definitely kill any competitive advantage over old-fashioned ways of doing business. If you can’t automate, and have to keep a full sales force online, plus the massive broadband infrastructure required for real time operation, where’s the savings? True enough, five years on, you are still submitting your Amazon orders through some boring form, not by pointing a webcam at a live salesperson.

   Same principle for blogs. What’s great about them is that they can be operated at the convenience of everybody involved. Sean can post something leftist in his pyjamas, late at night, and I can dutifully dissent early in the morning, many time zones away, perhaps right after returning from an early jog, before hitting the shower. Semi-real time interaction would be much more demanding on our schedules, reducing the comparative advantage of this medium over others. If we have to agree on a time and place, and perhaps even be all dressed up and presentable, we might as well run for office or something. And how much fun is that?

3. Elliot on Nov 11th, 2005 at 12:35 pm

   Dissedent: Agreed that there are challenges (IM vs. email) as an example. But the fact that we have many more choices about the cycle time of the feedback loops makes for much more interesting possiblities. Let me pose a real world example: Lets assume a massive distributed bio-terrorist attack. Doesn’t this medium offer opportunities to potentially mitigate the threat that 1 way information delivery does not.

   And I can still be on-line in real time in my PJs. (until of course the video cameras become the standard vs. text :))

   Elliot

4. zephoria on Nov 11th, 2005 at 12:38 pm

   John Seely Brown isn’t here. He should be but he’s not.

5. Clifford on Nov 11th, 2005 at 12:41 pm

   Ah! that explains my miscounting…. thanks zephoria!

   -cvj

6. Sean on Nov 11th, 2005 at 12:55 pm

   In response to Dissident’s implication, I will have everyone know that each time I post I am elegantly attired in a bespoke suit I had tailored at Saville Row for just this purpose.

7. Clifford on Nov 11th, 2005 at 1:10 pm

   Sean… I am shocked that you don’t wear a top hat….like I do. You’re just sloppily dressed -virtually naked- without it!

   -cvj

8. Mark on Nov 11th, 2005 at 1:27 pm

   I find that my monocle distorts my on-screen writing and my watch fob gets in the way of the keyboard. But I won’t remove them for anything!

9. Elliot on Nov 11th, 2005 at 1:32 pm

   http://www.backwash.com/content.php?jouid=5166

   snacks anyone?

10. erc on Nov 11th, 2005 at 2:04 pm

    I believe in the early days of the BBC presenters were required to be appropriately dressed when broadcasting in the evening. Dinner jackets after 6pm please, chaps!

11. Samantha on Nov 11th, 2005 at 3:08 pm

    But those BBC presenters only wore DJs since there was no need for trousers, right?

12. damtp_dweller on Nov 11th, 2005 at 4:51 pm

    It should also not be forgotten that BBC radio and newsreel presenters were once the standard bearers for that most cultured of accents, the cut-glass “Received Pronunciation.” The Beeb have a lovely little article on it here.

13. Plato on Nov 12th, 2005 at 1:22 am

    Was this a “real time” conversation going on at one desk?

    So what’s your mission, should you choose to accept it?

14. Clifford on Nov 12th, 2005 at 1:56 am

    It was an amazing conversation. I cannot begin to explain how interesting it was. And we were blogging, ichatting, and regular chatting all at the same time. All very meta, since the subject was blogs.

    -cvj

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