Comments on: I’m Not Sure What This Means

By: Show and Tell - Asymptotia

Show and Tell - Asymptotia — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 07:10:21 +0000

[…] Of course, this is a very good thing overall (see earlier discussions here, here, and here -including the illuminating sometimes depressing discussion threads- (and more recently here, here and here, for example) about increasing the number of times that young people are made aware of a career choice that they can make that society, through the media, etc, tells them that they can’t make), and I’m very willing to help where I can. […]

By: Cosmic Variance Goes To Church | Cosmic Variance

Cosmic Variance Goes To Church | Cosmic Variance — Wed, 26 Apr 2006 04:03:58 +0000

[…] Oh, and guess how he heard about me? Do you remember that post I wrote on this blog entitled “I’m Not Sure What This Means“, about that article that was done about me being the most cited Black Mathematician of 2005, as studied by the Journal of Blacks in Higher Education? Well, he saw the article in that journal, and thought that I would be a person to ask to talk in his church. So what was the point of the exercise? Well, had that article not been written, he might never have heard of me. So that’s one meaning that the article had, right there. That alone is probably enough of a point, I think. […]

By: Black Scientists | Cosmic Variance

Black Scientists | Cosmic Variance — Sun, 19 Feb 2006 04:53:47 +0000

[…] Of course, this is a very good thing overall (see an earlier discussion here , here and here -including the illuminating sometimes depressing discussion threads- about increasing the number of times that young people are made aware of a career choice that they can make that society tells them that they can’t make), and I’m very willing to help where I can. […]

By: Clifford

Clifford — Tue, 11 Oct 2005 21:02:48 +0000

rcriii - Thanks. I’ve no idea, frankly. I also don’t know what they were counting. Paper alone? Citations to the book too?

-cvj

By: rcriii

rcriii — Tue, 11 Oct 2005 20:50:05 +0000

Congrats for the well-deserved honor, But how does this level of citation compare to all other Physicists? Don’t leave us hanging that way.

By: Clifford

Clifford — Sun, 09 Oct 2005 14:09:18 +0000

gosh! i did not mean anyone in particular…. but thanks….Let us hope they “get it”.

-cvj

By: andrew

andrew — Sun, 09 Oct 2005 07:38:41 +0000

got it.
e-mailing it in a second.

peace,
A

By: Clifford

Clifford — Sat, 08 Oct 2005 16:37:04 +0000

andrew: Thanks. Perhaps. But, there’s not enough hours in the day to do all I want to do…fight all the battles I want to fight…sing all the songs I want to sing, etc.

Maybe someone will just send them the link to this very blog post to which this comment thread belongs.

Cheers,

-cvj

By: andrew

andrew — Sat, 08 Oct 2005 16:22:52 +0000

Clifford, I don’t think I was argueing with your points as much as with the poster of the comment:

“yes. Well-meaning attempts like this only serve to reinforce racial stereotypes. By comparing you to blacks only, it’s as if you couldn’t compete with whites. Just the message they want to send! It’s a sad and frustrating feature of the left’s current approach to the racial problem.”

but appreciate the feedback. Perhaps you should ask the LBHE to compare the acheivements of African-Americans to researchers outside of their race. They might be open to the idea. A new category in their studies =)

peace,
A

By: Clifford

Clifford — Sat, 08 Oct 2005 15:04:57 +0000

andrew. thanks.

three things:

(1) I don’t have a problem with the existence and aims of the JBHE. I just think that they are missing out on doing the best job they can if they do not compare the academics they are studying to their peers in comparable fields, regardless of race. You need to track all aspects of progress, but remember to put it correctly in context….

You said: “I don’t think tracking by race is the problem, I think perceiving by race is the problem.” Yes: This is precisely my point!

(2) I am not African American, but I am black. The journal is JBHE, not JAAHE. And I live and work in America. So it is appropriate to track me.

(3) I replaced your extract with a link to the reporter’s page with the same material.

Cheers,

-cvj