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		<title>By: janet</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/09/26/now-thats-what-im-talking-about/#comment-4565</link>
		<dc:creator>janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel -- I just found a really funny one: "pancreatic eyelet cells." A good example of the kind of error that a spellchecker won't catch, since it's the correct spelling of the wrong word. (For the uninitiated, it should be "pancreatic islet cells," which happen to be a subject near and dear to my heart.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel &#8212; I just found a really funny one: &#8220;pancreatic eyelet cells.&#8221; A good example of the kind of error that a spellchecker won&#8217;t catch, since it&#8217;s the correct spelling of the wrong word. (For the uninitiated, it should be &#8220;pancreatic islet cells,&#8221; which happen to be a subject near and dear to my heart.)</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/09/26/now-thats-what-im-talking-about/#comment-4458</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 19:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the strength of this entry, I checked it out.  It's decent so far; but I have to say the editorial staff must've spent more time goo-gawing at all the blog publicity they were getting than the articles.  I found several mechanical errors, including grammar and typos, just on something between a cursory scan and a deep reading.  Mind you, if the content's there it'll shine past blemishes; but it would be nice if some folks who can keep their significant digits straight to use a spellchecker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the strength of this entry, I checked it out.  It&#8217;s decent so far; but I have to say the editorial staff must&#8217;ve spent more time goo-gawing at all the blog publicity they were getting than the articles.  I found several mechanical errors, including grammar and typos, just on something between a cursory scan and a deep reading.  Mind you, if the content&#8217;s there it&#8217;ll shine past blemishes; but it would be nice if some folks who can keep their significant digits straight to use a spellchecker.</p>
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		<title>By: janet</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/09/26/now-thats-what-im-talking-about/#comment-4439</link>
		<dc:creator>janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 16:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course I'm a cat person -- the cats wouldn't have it any other way.

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course I&#8217;m a cat person &#8212; the cats wouldn&#8217;t have it any other way.</p>
<p> <img src='http://cosmicvariance.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/09/26/now-thats-what-im-talking-about/#comment-4409</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 05:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Janet... step back from the complaint about the tear-out crib-sheet about Stem Cells, and look at the bigger picture.

&lt;em&gt; It's a tear-out crib-sheet about Stem Cells!!! &lt;/em&gt;

Isn't that a great thing to have in a glossy magazine?!! Do you see my point?

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Janet&#8230; step back from the complaint about the tear-out crib-sheet about Stem Cells, and look at the bigger picture.</p>
<p><em> It&#8217;s a tear-out crib-sheet about Stem Cells!!! </em></p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that a great thing to have in a glossy magazine?!! Do you see my point?</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/09/26/now-thats-what-im-talking-about/#comment-4404</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 05:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I'm not angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry" - Bruce Banner.

Hi Janet, 

Believe me, it takes a bit more than that to get me mad at someone! And if I was mad at you, I would not spend precious time replying to your concerns. You just would not hear from me at all. Zip. Nada. You would not exist.

No. I reply to,  and make jokes with (as time permits) you and others because you seem to give  a damn, whether or not we disagree on things a little here and there.

And now I learn that  you're a cat person. So now it will be even harder to get mad at you.... :-)

Cheers,

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m not angry. You wouldn&#8217;t like me when I&#8217;m angry&#8221; - Bruce Banner.</p>
<p>Hi Janet, </p>
<p>Believe me, it takes a bit more than that to get me mad at someone! And if I was mad at you, I would not spend precious time replying to your concerns. You just would not hear from me at all. Zip. Nada. You would not exist.</p>
<p>No. I reply to,  and make jokes with (as time permits) you and others because you seem to give  a damn, whether or not we disagree on things a little here and there.</p>
<p>And now I learn that  you&#8217;re a cat person. So now it will be even harder to get mad at you&#8230;. <img src='http://cosmicvariance.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: janet</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/09/26/now-thats-what-im-talking-about/#comment-4401</link>
		<dc:creator>janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 04:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, that smiley should have been "p. 8."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, that smiley should have been &#8220;p. 8.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: janet</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/09/26/now-thats-what-im-talking-about/#comment-4400</link>
		<dc:creator>janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2005 04:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the main ad/article confusion was an article that I thought was an ad. When I buy a magazine, one of the first things I do is to tear out all the ads that are on stiff paper and toss them out. This makes it easier to flip through the magazine, or to fold it open to a particular page and keep it there -- essential to reading a magazine one-handed, or while on a treadmill. I almost tossed out the "stem cell cribsheet," which is designed to be "tear-outable," but I realized in time that it wasn't an ad and kept it. It doesn't contain anything that was really new to me, so tossing it out wouldn't have lost me much, but on the other hand if I'd tossed it out without realizing it and then later gone looking for it, I wouldn't have known what I was or was not missing. There were a few other pieces of content that I thought at first were parts of multipage ads, mainly the "portfolio" pieces and the photo essay.

The column delimiters bugged me because they appear between the pictures (e.g. on p. 8), and since the leaders also appear between pictures I at first assumed that the column delimiter was also pointing from the picture to something. (My husband looked at my post and said "I could have pointed out Lisa Randall to you -- I knew her when she was a post-doc at LBL." Which of course wasn't the point.) It's not that I care that much what people look like, I just think that when I see leaders from text to pictures, there's some reason for them to be there; otherwise, why have them at all?

I think my reaction is partly due to having studied user-interface design and worked in publishing, where I have assimilated the unpopular idea that design should be transparent -- that good design is design that you don't have to figure out how to interpret or use, it's intuitive. This is not so important with magazines as it is with things like BART ticket machines (don't get me started) and voting machines (ditto). You're probably right that this magazine may draw in some people who might otherwise not look at a science magazine. I just don't happen to like this type of magazine design, so it turns me off.

I am now reading the article on sociobiology. I hope he addresses some of the scientific and theoretical critiques of the field, not just the political ones.

Clifford, I don't think I've ever yelled at you for disagreeing with me. If it came across that way, I'm sorry. I did throw that self-described hissy fit, but I thought we'd resolved that. I hope you're not still mad at me; I really didn't intend to offend you.

Scuse me -- one of the cats is getting between me and the keyboard. I'd better log off before he types something catty and tries to post it under my name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the main ad/article confusion was an article that I thought was an ad. When I buy a magazine, one of the first things I do is to tear out all the ads that are on stiff paper and toss them out. This makes it easier to flip through the magazine, or to fold it open to a particular page and keep it there &#8212; essential to reading a magazine one-handed, or while on a treadmill. I almost tossed out the &#8220;stem cell cribsheet,&#8221; which is designed to be &#8220;tear-outable,&#8221; but I realized in time that it wasn&#8217;t an ad and kept it. It doesn&#8217;t contain anything that was really new to me, so tossing it out wouldn&#8217;t have lost me much, but on the other hand if I&#8217;d tossed it out without realizing it and then later gone looking for it, I wouldn&#8217;t have known what I was or was not missing. There were a few other pieces of content that I thought at first were parts of multipage ads, mainly the &#8220;portfolio&#8221; pieces and the photo essay.</p>
<p>The column delimiters bugged me because they appear between the pictures (e.g. on p. 8), and since the leaders also appear between pictures I at first assumed that the column delimiter was also pointing from the picture to something. (My husband looked at my post and said &#8220;I could have pointed out Lisa Randall to you &#8212; I knew her when she was a post-doc at LBL.&#8221; Which of course wasn&#8217;t the point.) It&#8217;s not that I care that much what people look like, I just think that when I see leaders from text to pictures, there&#8217;s some reason for them to be there; otherwise, why have them at all?</p>
<p>I think my reaction is partly due to having studied user-interface design and worked in publishing, where I have assimilated the unpopular idea that design should be transparent &#8212; that good design is design that you don&#8217;t have to figure out how to interpret or use, it&#8217;s intuitive. This is not so important with magazines as it is with things like BART ticket machines (don&#8217;t get me started) and voting machines (ditto). You&#8217;re probably right that this magazine may draw in some people who might otherwise not look at a science magazine. I just don&#8217;t happen to like this type of magazine design, so it turns me off.</p>
<p>I am now reading the article on sociobiology. I hope he addresses some of the scientific and theoretical critiques of the field, not just the political ones.</p>
<p>Clifford, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever yelled at you for disagreeing with me. If it came across that way, I&#8217;m sorry. I did throw that self-described hissy fit, but I thought we&#8217;d resolved that. I hope you&#8217;re not still mad at me; I really didn&#8217;t intend to offend you.</p>
<p>Scuse me &#8212; one of the cats is getting between me and the keyboard. I&#8217;d better log off before he types something catty and tries to post it under my name.</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/09/26/now-thats-what-im-talking-about/#comment-4381</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 22:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael D. Thanks for letting us know about Cosmos!

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael D. Thanks for letting us know about Cosmos!</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/09/26/now-thats-what-im-talking-about/#comment-4380</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 22:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Janet, I looked again. I think you're being a bit harsh on them. You said:

"For example, as with Wired, itâ€™s not always clear what is an article and what is an ad. And maybe Iâ€™m a fuddy duddy, but those stupid little fine lines that criss-cross the page in the apparent attempt to connect a particular image with a particular block of text have got to go!"

Actually, it's really not that bad at all. I can't find &lt;em&gt; any&lt;/em&gt;  ad pages which are not clearly ads.... which one did you have in mind? I don't think it comes even close to the confusion I've seen in several standard magazines.

And  the key to the criss-cross line layout idea (used on pages 8, 10, 41, 90, 91, 92, 93, and 94) is that they connect to the &lt;em&gt;corners&lt;/em&gt; of boxes. (Except in one place where a box is round... :-) There's also a small screw up on a dinosaur picture which introduced no confusion.  ) It is overall completely unambiguous, and a nice change from the usual methods. I actually agree with them that it makes for a nice alternative to cluttering the graphics with more text than neccessary. (I agree that on page 8 they could have left out the column delimeter lines for a cleaner look, but overall it is not nearly as big a problem as you seem to suggest, to the extent that you had to put it down to get over being aggravated.)

(Oh, please don't yell at me for disagreeing...)

Cheers,

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Janet, I looked again. I think you&#8217;re being a bit harsh on them. You said:</p>
<p>&#8220;For example, as with Wired, itâ€™s not always clear what is an article and what is an ad. And maybe Iâ€™m a fuddy duddy, but those stupid little fine lines that criss-cross the page in the apparent attempt to connect a particular image with a particular block of text have got to go!&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, it&#8217;s really not that bad at all. I can&#8217;t find <em> any</em>  ad pages which are not clearly ads&#8230;. which one did you have in mind? I don&#8217;t think it comes even close to the confusion I&#8217;ve seen in several standard magazines.</p>
<p>And  the key to the criss-cross line layout idea (used on pages 8, 10, 41, 90, 91, 92, 93, and 94) is that they connect to the <em>corners</em> of boxes. (Except in one place where a box is round&#8230; <img src='http://cosmicvariance.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> There&#8217;s also a small screw up on a dinosaur picture which introduced no confusion.  ) It is overall completely unambiguous, and a nice change from the usual methods. I actually agree with them that it makes for a nice alternative to cluttering the graphics with more text than neccessary. (I agree that on page 8 they could have left out the column delimeter lines for a cleaner look, but overall it is not nearly as big a problem as you seem to suggest, to the extent that you had to put it down to get over being aggravated.)</p>
<p>(Oh, please don&#8217;t yell at me for disagreeing&#8230;)</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/09/26/now-thats-what-im-talking-about/#comment-4376</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janet, Sean:  The lines are a bit confusing at first, but I found them a nice sort of puzzle after a while. It became kind of fun. I hope they keep it. But then, I was not overly rushed to learn what the writers of the various articles looked like so I can see that you might have got a bit frustrated.

But keep your eyes on the prize here: There's a lot of pointless design out there bent on creating eye-candy and making stuff look "cool". But it is usually done on magazines in others fields. I'm very pleased that people are taking the time to play  this way with a magazine that is about science. We should support the effort. And no, I don't mean that we should accept flawed design; just that we keep our eyes on the big picture of what this sort of design endeavour might mean for the goal of getting more people to browse through a magazine about science rather than hollywood stars, or funky-looking table lamps (all worthy subjects, of course)....

At this point someone will now pipe up that this is all missing the point and we should just teach kids better in schools. Yep. Go for it. Sigh.

Cheers,

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janet, Sean:  The lines are a bit confusing at first, but I found them a nice sort of puzzle after a while. It became kind of fun. I hope they keep it. But then, I was not overly rushed to learn what the writers of the various articles looked like so I can see that you might have got a bit frustrated.</p>
<p>But keep your eyes on the prize here: There&#8217;s a lot of pointless design out there bent on creating eye-candy and making stuff look &#8220;cool&#8221;. But it is usually done on magazines in others fields. I&#8217;m very pleased that people are taking the time to play  this way with a magazine that is about science. We should support the effort. And no, I don&#8217;t mean that we should accept flawed design; just that we keep our eyes on the big picture of what this sort of design endeavour might mean for the goal of getting more people to browse through a magazine about science rather than hollywood stars, or funky-looking table lamps (all worthy subjects, of course)&#8230;.</p>
<p>At this point someone will now pipe up that this is all missing the point and we should just teach kids better in schools. Yep. Go for it. Sigh.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/09/26/now-thats-what-im-talking-about/#comment-4360</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 17:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janet, I'm with you on the design issues.  They could take some lessons from &lt;a href="http://symmetrymag.org/cms/" rel="nofollow"&gt;symmetry&lt;/a&gt;, which is both gorgeous and user-friendly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janet, I&#8217;m with you on the design issues.  They could take some lessons from <a href="http://symmetrymag.org/cms/" rel="nofollow">symmetry</a>, which is both gorgeous and user-friendly.</p>
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		<title>By: Re-Seeding A Science Lifestyle &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/09/26/now-thats-what-im-talking-about/#comment-4340</link>
		<dc:creator>Re-Seeding A Science Lifestyle &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 06:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Progress?  I hope so. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: No, I&#8217;ve Not Gone Away &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/09/26/now-thats-what-im-talking-about/#comment-4339</link>
		<dc:creator>No, I&#8217;ve Not Gone Away &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 06:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I decided last Sunday that I should back off from posting for a little while, and give my co-bloggers some air. My feeling was that I was posting way too much, you probably were a bit tired of my voice, and that I should let some other voices be heard a bit more. Seems that everyone else was a bit busy for most of the week so that did not seem to work very well for a while there. So I set out with good intentions. Then the Seed magazine arrived on Monday and I simply could not help doing a post about it. So that ruined my plan, but I started again. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I decided last Sunday that I should back off from posting for a little while, and give my co-bloggers some air. My feeling was that I was posting way too much, you probably were a bit tired of my voice, and that I should let some other voices be heard a bit more. Seems that everyone else was a bit busy for most of the week so that did not seem to work very well for a while there. So I set out with good intentions. Then the Seed magazine arrived on Monday and I simply could not help doing a post about it. So that ruined my plan, but I started again. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: janet</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/09/26/now-thats-what-im-talking-about/#comment-4336</link>
		<dc:creator>janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 21:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought a copy of this magazine today, and it looks interesting, but I am deeply unimpressed with the way it's designed. It's not as ugly as Wired, but has some of the same problems, most of which seem to stem from a desire to look cool rather than to make it readable. For example, as with Wired, it's not always clear what is an article and what is an ad. And maybe I'm a fuddy duddy, but those stupid little fine lines that criss-cross the page in the apparent attempt to connect a particular image with a particular block of text have got to go! The "contributors" page is especially bad, because the leaders and the lines that demarcate the columns are the same width and color. Plus, the editors of a science magazine ought to be aware of the optical illusions that can make it hard to follow the course of a line that is partially blocked out by an intervening object, especially when there's an almost parallel line nearby. There are things in life that I am willing to spend a lot of time thinking about, but figuring out which of six pictures is Lisa Randall isn't one of them. Apparently the designers couldn't bear to put the text next to the image it goes with -- that would be too boring. IMO, the best design is the kind of design that doesn't distract from content, rather than the kind that screams "look how cool this design is!"

I think I'm going to put the magazine away until I get over my aggravation with the design. Then maybe I'll read some of the articles....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought a copy of this magazine today, and it looks interesting, but I am deeply unimpressed with the way it&#8217;s designed. It&#8217;s not as ugly as Wired, but has some of the same problems, most of which seem to stem from a desire to look cool rather than to make it readable. For example, as with Wired, it&#8217;s not always clear what is an article and what is an ad. And maybe I&#8217;m a fuddy duddy, but those stupid little fine lines that criss-cross the page in the apparent attempt to connect a particular image with a particular block of text have got to go! The &#8220;contributors&#8221; page is especially bad, because the leaders and the lines that demarcate the columns are the same width and color. Plus, the editors of a science magazine ought to be aware of the optical illusions that can make it hard to follow the course of a line that is partially blocked out by an intervening object, especially when there&#8217;s an almost parallel line nearby. There are things in life that I am willing to spend a lot of time thinking about, but figuring out which of six pictures is Lisa Randall isn&#8217;t one of them. Apparently the designers couldn&#8217;t bear to put the text next to the image it goes with &#8212; that would be too boring. IMO, the best design is the kind of design that doesn&#8217;t distract from content, rather than the kind that screams &#8220;look how cool this design is!&#8221;</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;m going to put the magazine away until I get over my aggravation with the design. Then maybe I&#8217;ll read some of the articles&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael D</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/09/26/now-thats-what-im-talking-about/#comment-4326</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 03:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haven't had a chance to see if Seed is available up here in australia, but found a new mag called "Cosmos" which seems pretty similar: 

Cosmos, Australia's innovative new popular science magazine, drew a galaxy of stars to its Sydney launch event yesterday.

Launched by John Bell AM, Australia's leading Shakespearean actor and director, the magazine made its official bow to 140 guests in the 19th century splendour of The Mint in Sydney's Macquarie Street.

Bell said he expected Cosmos to provide inspiration as well as information: "Just as artists of the Renaissance were inspired by scientific advances and the discovery of the new world, so artists of today must be fired by science's probing into outer space, to the bottom of the ocean, to the origins of our cosmos and the beginning of time."

Dr Alan Finkel, Chairman of the Luna Media and founder of Axon Instruments, a Melbourne and California-based scientific equipment manufacturer with a global reputation, said Cosmos communicated the real excitement of science: "It has given science a living face, a vibrant, literary persona such as it has never had before."

Editor Wilson da Silva stressed the accessibility and excitement of the new title: "It's science protrayed in a way we don't usually see: lush, voluptuous and sexy," he said. "It's glossy, it's intelligent, and it's a cracking good read."

Publisher Kylie Ahern added that Cosmos was an idea whose time had come. "The media tend to regard science as outside the mainstream," she said. "But science impacts on everything we do: it can be uplifting and inspiring."

Cosmos will cover a broad range of topics - from art and design to the body and space - and da Silva said each 112-page issue would aim to tell its readers more about the universe, the world they live inâ€¦ and themselves.

(www.cosmosmagazine.com)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haven&#8217;t had a chance to see if Seed is available up here in australia, but found a new mag called &#8220;Cosmos&#8221; which seems pretty similar: </p>
<p>Cosmos, Australia&#8217;s innovative new popular science magazine, drew a galaxy of stars to its Sydney launch event yesterday.</p>
<p>Launched by John Bell AM, Australia&#8217;s leading Shakespearean actor and director, the magazine made its official bow to 140 guests in the 19th century splendour of The Mint in Sydney&#8217;s Macquarie Street.</p>
<p>Bell said he expected Cosmos to provide inspiration as well as information: &#8220;Just as artists of the Renaissance were inspired by scientific advances and the discovery of the new world, so artists of today must be fired by science&#8217;s probing into outer space, to the bottom of the ocean, to the origins of our cosmos and the beginning of time.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dr Alan Finkel, Chairman of the Luna Media and founder of Axon Instruments, a Melbourne and California-based scientific equipment manufacturer with a global reputation, said Cosmos communicated the real excitement of science: &#8220;It has given science a living face, a vibrant, literary persona such as it has never had before.&#8221;</p>
<p>Editor Wilson da Silva stressed the accessibility and excitement of the new title: &#8220;It&#8217;s science protrayed in a way we don&#8217;t usually see: lush, voluptuous and sexy,&#8221; he said. &#8220;It&#8217;s glossy, it&#8217;s intelligent, and it&#8217;s a cracking good read.&#8221;</p>
<p>Publisher Kylie Ahern added that Cosmos was an idea whose time had come. &#8220;The media tend to regard science as outside the mainstream,&#8221; she said. &#8220;But science impacts on everything we do: it can be uplifting and inspiring.&#8221;</p>
<p>Cosmos will cover a broad range of topics - from art and design to the body and space - and da Silva said each 112-page issue would aim to tell its readers more about the universe, the world they live inâ€¦ and themselves.</p>
<p>(www.cosmosmagazine.com)</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/09/26/now-thats-what-im-talking-about/#comment-4188</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 04:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Spyder....unexpected and unusual....but thanks! I may well try to move there myself!

Janet: maybe. thanks for suggesting the possible reason.

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Spyder&#8230;.unexpected and unusual&#8230;.but thanks! I may well try to move there myself!</p>
<p>Janet: maybe. thanks for suggesting the possible reason.</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: spyder</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/09/26/now-thats-what-im-talking-about/#comment-4177</link>
		<dc:creator>spyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 22:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For "friends of clifford" if they are in need.  A close burningman friend posted this on our local listserve and it seems to be more properly useful to those around USC and interested in the developing Art community redevelopment of downtown LALA. Tracy is a creative wizard and holds this space for all that is best about art and culture in the LA setting... 
 
Subject: Looking for 2 roomates
&#62;
&#62; Hi Friends, Treehouse Gallery is a 5000 sq. foot live/work warehouse and
&#62; gallery space.
&#62; As of November 1st, 2 bedrooms are available. Studio space is included with
&#62; each room. One room is $600 and &#38; the other is $700/mo, plus utilities.
&#62; Closest
&#62; cross streets are Olympic and Santa Fe.
&#62; If you have questions or want to see the space, call Tracy Powell
&#62; 310-350-1460.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For &#8220;friends of clifford&#8221; if they are in need.  A close burningman friend posted this on our local listserve and it seems to be more properly useful to those around USC and interested in the developing Art community redevelopment of downtown LALA. Tracy is a creative wizard and holds this space for all that is best about art and culture in the LA setting&#8230; </p>
<p>Subject: Looking for 2 roomates<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Hi Friends, Treehouse Gallery is a 5000 sq. foot live/work warehouse and<br />
&gt; gallery space.<br />
&gt; As of November 1st, 2 bedrooms are available. Studio space is included with<br />
&gt; each room. One room is $600 and &amp; the other is $700/mo, plus utilities.<br />
&gt; Closest<br />
&gt; cross streets are Olympic and Santa Fe.<br />
&gt; If you have questions or want to see the space, call Tracy Powell<br />
&gt; 310-350-1460.</p>
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		<title>By: janet</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/09/26/now-thats-what-im-talking-about/#comment-4167</link>
		<dc:creator>janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found the Seed website a while ago, following a link from Chris Mooney's blog, but was kind of skeptical about the magazine. Now I guess I should check it out.

Clifford, have you given money to your local public radio or tv station? That's how I started getting San Francisco Magazine, which is presumably the local equivalent of Los Angeleno. It's pretty silly, but I do like the food porn, er, scuse me, glossy pix of food and restaurants, over-the-top reviews, and annual chef of the year awards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the Seed website a while ago, following a link from Chris Mooney&#8217;s blog, but was kind of skeptical about the magazine. Now I guess I should check it out.</p>
<p>Clifford, have you given money to your local public radio or tv station? That&#8217;s how I started getting San Francisco Magazine, which is presumably the local equivalent of Los Angeleno. It&#8217;s pretty silly, but I do like the food porn, er, scuse me, glossy pix of food and restaurants, over-the-top reviews, and annual chef of the year awards.</p>
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		<title>By: Torben Buch</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/09/26/now-thats-what-im-talking-about/#comment-4163</link>
		<dc:creator>Torben Buch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 13:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as their thoughts on "Not Even Wrong" go... remember there's more to science than string theory :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as their thoughts on &#8220;Not Even Wrong&#8221; go&#8230; remember there&#8217;s more to science than string theory <img src='http://cosmicvariance.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Urs</title>
		<link>http://cosmicvariance.com/2005/09/26/now-thats-what-im-talking-about/#comment-4162</link>
		<dc:creator>Urs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 13:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what do they say about the Coffee Table?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what do they say about the Coffee Table?</p>
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